ABC: Knowing God Chapter 12

So chapter 12, the love of God or as I like to call this the concept of God that everyone loves and everyone loves to use even though they don't understand it. Yeah, that's what I have underlined right away where um it says so Saint John's to repeated statement, God is love is one of the most tremendous utterances in the Bible and also one of the most misunderstood misunderstood. Yeah. So I think that statement God is love or God loves me or love is love, which is kind of derived from that in a way. Uh We can talk about that later too. Um All really comes up because people like that statement because it is not offensive in any way. It actually it feels affirming, it feels nice, a nice, warm and fuzzy. 

Yeah, it feels the nice warm fuzzies, but we're only looking at the surface layer of it. We're not looking deep into what does that mean? Really? We identify the word love with how we think of the word love in the modern Western world, which is you see that person and all of a sudden fireworks are going off, hearts are floating everywhere and you float up off your feet and float to them. You know, like you see in the car cartoons, you remember seeing that cartoons, right? It's like, like Pepe Le Pew sees the cat that's painted like a skunk and, and like he's like flying to her. Like, man, when do you get the Jedi Powers? What's going on with this? 

It's where Star Wars got their actual ideas from. Have you seen the meme that Harry Potter is just Star Wars with wands? I will show you that later. Oh boy Jay Car and you rip it off. So yeah, when you read, when you hear it told in that way and like someone did a video of it, you're like, oh jeez, it really is sick anyways. 

That's neither here nor there. If you want to know more about that. Go ahead and look it up. It's like a, it's like a minute long video because it's a short essentially. So it's not that long of an investment for you, but it's a meme that will open your eyes to Harry Potter is just Star Wars with wands. It's within the, the what? The? Wow, I can't even think straight long enough to get this word out. No, I can't. It's what the correct, what the time. Wow. I cannot stand myself right now. Attention span. That's what I was trying to think of. 

Goodness something, the perfect time to keep your attention. Yeah. Go my brain is dead. Well, let's continue talking. Then you're about a lot of love. Unless there's something like on that first page. Tuck away man. So under the segment called a Flood of Love, it starts off at right at the top. It says three points in Paul words deserves comment. And I'm like first words or what, what, what is he talking about there? Right? Um And he's talking about the, well, previously, he was talking about in Romans 55 and he's showing the KJVKJV version. 

The love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy ghost which is given unto us. So that's Romans 55 KJV. So he's saying the three points in Paul's words deserve comment. What words, those words, Romans 55 1st. 

No, the verb shed abroad. It means literally poured or dumped out now in modern English context. When we think shed abroad, what do we think about abroad, foreign, overseas sort of deal? That's all what he's talking about here in the KJV version in that it's literally poured or dumped out. OK. So I, I just wanna bring that up because I know like some people that I've talked to have gone like, wait, what does that mean? What? That's true. Yeah, I guess I didn't even think about that when I first read that you didn't, well, as far as like thinking, I mean, I didn't think of a, a set abroad meaning poured out or whatever. But yeah, I guess I don't really think of the word abroad is just over a great, yeah. So the, the EV translates it as this and hope does not put us to shame because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. 

So, uh I like the ESV version a little bit better than the K GB KGV. There's also other things I have issues with the KJV version as well. But um like for example, I was doing some digging and some guy brought up a a hypothesis essentially that the word tyrant was removed from the KGV version altogether. Hm Why was it? Well, who commissioned the KGV? King? Yeah. A king tyrants are normally associated with kings. So that's why it was removed out of the KGV version altogether because it didn't want to associate with. Yeah. So, you know, you know, there's, there's certain things you know about the KGV, I have some gripes with. Also we have more modern translations. 

There's things I have with the ESB that I don't like either. No translation is perfect. This is, this is why I usually use uh a, a couple of translations kind of get a, a broad sense of what of what different translation groups are saying in that gosh, when reading one version wasn't enough, that's why that's why I have software like Laga. Um So I, if I want to, I could bring up multiple translations at once and there's even a tool, I'm sure there's a way to do it on the desktop version. But I usually use it on the mobile version where I can bring up a verse and it'll show me all the translations of it on the side of that one verse. So then I can look at that verse and then not have to do a bunch of searching to see all the versions that I have installed on my account to see what that verse says in those versions. 

It's pretty cool, pretty neat. That is pretty nice. And then I don't have to do a ton of, I'm sure that exists on the desktop. I just don't use the desktop as much as the mobile. Thank you technology. One thing I'm thankful for, I suppose. Well, another thing I'm thankful for as far as technology goes. Yeah. Good job. Yeah. And as he knows here in the neb version that that verse is translated as God's Love has flooded our in most heart, I, I don't even know what the Neb stands for, to be honest. Uh Neb and I didn't even take the time to look it up. 

I was just like, ok, that's a translation I haven't heard of before. Yeah, I'm not, I wasn't familiar with that one either. I'm trying to remember what it was off the top of my head, but you know what? New English Bible? Oh, that easy, huh? Nice. So the most recent versions from like 1989? Ok. Oh, I'm sorry. Wait, new e new English Bible was 1970 1989 version was the revised English Bible. 

The reb uh ok. Nice. There's so many translations out there. So, yeah. Oh, well, yeah, just with the simple little app I have and it will give you the option to like, oh, what version do you want? 

I'm like there's this many freaking versions. Oh Yeah. OK. There's a lot of versions out there and it's great every time I, I Yeah, that's why I use uh a multitude of them because some of them just now, obviously, I don't use the passion version ever. I've, I didn't even know that was a version. Yeah, that's a junk version. Um The message I use only for entertainment because it is the me the message and no really I was the message of Romans five is the best. The what? What's the me it, it's a translation that they try to make it very conversational in a way. So like here, I'm gonna read Romans 53 through five in the message translation. 

There's more to come. We continue to shout our praise even when we're hemmed in with troubles because we know how troubles can develop passionate patience in us and how that patience in turn forges the tempted, tempered steel of virtue, keeping us alert for whatever God will do next in alert expectancy such as this, we're never left feeling short changed. Quite the contrary, we can't round up enough containers to hold everything. God generously pours into our lives through the Holy Spirit. So you can see where 55 is in here. It's that last little bit. We can't round up enough containers to hold everything. 

God generously pours into our lives through the Holy Spirit. But you, you, it's completely different. That's why message is not to be used for serious studying at all. It's a very, very, very loose translation. Yeah. It, it's very, and the passion is even worse. Well, you know, so is that, of course it's gonna be in here? 

I don't know if it will be in here actually. Yeah. OK. I don't see it in here. Yeah. No, it's not interesting. OK. So that, that's, there's not a lot of people that use the passion. 

It's a very, considered, very bad translation, bad translation. Yeah. Hm. So, but yeah. All right. Um There we go. Sorry. I've had flipped the page. 

I didn't mean to flip the page forward. Was there anything else in this area that you had? Oh, well, I had, let me just look at the silly stuff I had underlined. Oh OK. So this was uh so thus we show a great deal more interest in the gifts of healing in tongues. Then in the spirit's ordinary work of giving peace, joy, hope and love through the shedding abroad in our hearts of knowledge of the love of God. Um, the whole, I know I've had it, like, described to me many times, but I never remember the whole, like, what's the big thing with speaking in tongues? 

I never remember it because I always forget it. I never pay attention to it. Got you. So, um, so back in the New Testament Days, especially like you look at, like the Book of Acts and that, right when the Holy Spirit descended at Pentecost. Mhm. And all the people, there was a couple of things that happened, one of them was, you know, the people were speaking in their own tongue. OK? But also people started it. So their own language essentially. OK. So that's one thing. Then there's the whole thing of speaking in tongues, a different language altogether. And there's actually rules about that in the New Testament. Like it, it's considered a spiritual gift, right? But it's, but it, but here's the thing, if you read in the New Testament says, hey, here's the thing. 

If someone's speaking in tongues, there should be someone there to translate it and it should be done to bring glory to God and bring benefit to the body. If it's being done, just because you want to do it over in your seat somewhere, you're not doing the right thing and it probably isn't a gift at that point. So it's just one of the gifts that is potential possibility that is described in the New Testament, right? It's not saying that if you don't speak in tongues, like I've heard this before. People go well, if you don't speak in tongues and you're not experiencing God, that's not what it's saying. 

It's just saying some people will, some people won't just like some people had other gifts. Some people have gifts of service. Some people don't. It's, it's not a sign of you are more mature than everyone else. There are some places that like to say that like the only mark of spiritual maturity is that you do speak in tongues. That's not the case. 

It, it's, it's a possibility, you know, and, and that's a thing that's more the charismatic thing. Um Not going to get into that now because that can lead into like a 30 hour conversation about the charismatic. Do it just kidding? No, I don't have enough time for that. No, we got to get through this quick. Remember? Um The other thing I had section I had underlined was when we looked at God's wisdom, we saw something of his mind. I OK. So yeah, and I just like I thought this was, I, I guess a cool picture to me, at least when I especially it was I was reading it. But so yeah, when we looked at God's wisdom, we saw something of his mind. 

When we thought of his power, we saw something of his hand and arm when we considered his word, we learned about his mouth, but now contemplating his love, we are to look into his heart. Um, and that it, it kind of reminded me, well, that brought me back to, uh, a book that I had pretty much gone over, even though I missed a ton of the get togethers. Um, whereas talking about like the, the heart of Christ sort of thing, gentle and lowly being the heart of heart of Christ and thinking about, yeah, it was just really cool imagery to think of looking into God's own heart, how he has love for us. And it's not just a like, I, well, I guess being just and judgmental and being like, oh, you've done wrong. He actually does like in his heart, he loves a sort of thing that just man, that's a very, it was for me it's just very comforting and just some of them warm and fuzzy. Yeah. So, and that into the little statement he said in the paragraph before here, which is the love which he shows to humanity and which Christians know and re in is a revelation to his own inner being. So it ties together with that statement he just said there. So before we go on, I do have a question for you. Oh, no. What does Mora Bund mean? Oh, great. I don't know. It's in the para it's two paragraphs before what you read says revival means the work of God restoring to a Mormon church. I don't know. What does it mean? What do you think it means? 

I, I haven't wait. Right. Ok. What, what, where do you see that's in there? Bund? No, it's, it's not spelled, it's not spelled exactly. But it's morbid, it means to the point. 

Moribund means to the point of death. Wait for. That's awesome. I, I do want you to skip over that because I think that's important and adds context to the paragraph there. Wow, I looked right over that. Let's see. Um I shouldn't be surprised. 

Yeah, I I won't be surprised. All right. So that takes us to the next part. Uh Love, spirit light, which I think is the cultural version of God that's out there. OK. Yeah. So here's what I'll say it. 

I'm just gonna read what it says. Um He has in quote God is love is not the complete truth about God. So far as the Bible is concerned, God is love is not an abstract definition which stands alone, but a summing up. It is not possible to argue that a God who is love cannot also be a God who condemns and punches the disobedient for it is precisely of the God who does these very things that John is speaking. I underline that line section. Yeah. And and that goes contrary 100% to what we have in society nowadays, society will get what God's love. So therefore, and that has led to a lot of things um that has led to God is love. So therefore, there is no hell I heard that God is love. So therefore he cannot send people to hell. 

I've heard that God is love. So therefore, he will bless by same sex marriage. I've heard that God is love. So therefore, he will bless XYZ. Uh anything onto the list that we want to like personally. Mhm. And that could be whatever, from the most minor of sin issues to the largest of sin issues. God is love. So he won't care if I partake of this natural plant, your little high in the sky and Yeah. 

No, get more connected. Yeah. So that is the cultural God that we have out there that if anyone, even those who aren't, I guess, uh uh 100% opposed to the concept of God because there are people like that. Um, and those who aren't Christian will be in that camp of He accepts me for me. Yeah, I mean, he loves you but he wants, he wants you to follow him sort of thing, right? 

In, in the, in this statement is a misunderstanding of what, what that word love is. We associate the word an Americanized way of love as being nothing to do ever with punishment. Mhm. Nothing but the stuff we like to have. And that's why we have a lot of spoiled kids nowadays too is because those kids are never told. No, no, those kids are never, um, punished, punished. 

Yeah, that's, that's the way you put it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of craziness there, sir. Yeah. It, it's wild to see what just a little does like. That's, that's, yeah. Well, I feel like some of the, it's not, well, I guess, no, that's not even, that's not even punishment. 

It's, it's not, um, let's see, because you'll have kids throw tantrums as soon as, you know, they're, if they are told they're doing something wrong or no, and parents say, just give them whatever electronical device it is to shut him up. So they stop annoying them. We've, the parenting, uh, has really taken a, a 1 80 with the, as the generations ago and it's really gotten just how can we, or what can we do to still enjoy and have fun doing what we want to do with not having the kids, I guess Brewer is gonna have fun being a parent. No, he's not. No, it, it, parenting, I guess. Yeah. Being a parent, I'm sure. 

Yeah, I shouldn't say, I'm sure. I mean, it is a blessing but it's also a tonn of work and very difficult. Yep. Granted, obviously I can't speak from experience but, I mean, from, like, I shouldn't say every, like Christian, I guess adult, maybe every Christian adult that has been a parent talks about how it's a blessing, which is very strenuous. It's a, it's a, it's also a great or very big, like, learning curve for them. 

One, I, I mean, yeah, learning how to be a parent but it, 11 guy I was hearing, uh, just recently talking about, like, as he became a parent one, he started to learn more of God. And, I mean, you start to learn a lot more about yourself too. So, yeah, that, that is true. Yeah, parenting. That's a scary thought. Well, I have to do that with my nephews. That's my training. Oh boy, just temporarily though, thankfully, I don't have to do the main, main amount. 

Sorry, Laura and man. All right. Was there anything else that you uh picked up in this chapter here? Because he, he, he kind of regurgitates the same kind of stuff over and over and over and over. I was like, oh man, Aaron must love this. Yeah. Getting in his. It's getting a little messy in this book. 

Loving his how he writes stuff. Not Yeah. Um uh I mean, there's some just like lines I had to underline. That was kind of like, oh cool here and there. Nothing. So my next big chunk that I highlighted was right before point number two. And it says scripture does not allow us to suppose that because God is love. 

We may look to him to confer happiness on people who will not seek holiness or to shield his loved ones from trouble when he knows that they need trouble to further their sanctification. Did you highlight that too? Ok. I did. Is there any particular reason why you did or let me ask that first? Well, it made, made me think of, I guess, I, I think maybe it, it, it brought something out in me that I was like, shoot, maybe I've, I've, I've had a wrong outlook on outlook on this because so with the first part of it, yes. So scripture does not allow us to suppose that because God is love, ok? 

That we, I look to him to confer happiness on people who will not seek holiness. I guess I'm, I'm maybe I, I could be, I guess getting this wrong but it's like the phrase of, you know, whatever makes you happy sort of thing and just being ok with, ok, with that being the end of, I guess some sort of, I guess conversation or whatever for, oh, now it's losing me. It's running away from me as I'm talking about it. Um So for those that will not seek holiness, so those that don't wanna have anything to do with God, right? Maybe I'm maybe I'm getting something wrong here. 

Oh, you go first. All right. So, so let me, let me give me my thought on that first little bit there, ok? It says scripture is not allow us to suppose that because God is love. So we say God is love. 

God loves everyone which in essence is true. Ok? But it says that because God's love, we may look to Him to confer happiness on people who will not seek holiness. In other words, we may not, we may not appeal to God and say, hey God, because you love because you love us. Da da da. Will you go and pick someone you know who isn't saved over here, who doesn't believe in God in that? Would you go make them happy? 

Would you go give them the blessings that God may do it in his own time in his own way for his own purpose and his own reason. He may do it. But it's not gonna be just because of the fact that, you know, it's just because he's, he's loved that he's gonna do it. That, that's what he's trying to say here in this very worded sandwich here. The second part or to shield his loved ones, Aaron, uh, from trouble when he knows that they need trouble to further their sanctification. In other words, he's not gonna prevent you from going through the trial or trials or something like that. And I could think of for each of us off the top of my head. 

I can think of a bunch for each, each of us that we both have gone through, come out on the other side better. Right. And we hate it at the time because it, see, it sucks so bad and, yeah. Yeah. And some of them, you know, are sucking for just a little bit of time and some of them suck for months at a time. Yeah. You know. Yeah. But we, we've both learned and grown from it then we wouldn't have grown and learned unless we had gone through that. 

So, that's what I said. You know, just because God's love doesn't mean he's gonna shield those whom are his Children and doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna give good stuff to those who aren't, it's ordeal. He may do both to both at his leisure. That's great. That's great. Wow. Any other comment I was I Yeah, no, I was because I was, I was kind of getting off of it too. 

Just not in, not in a good way I suppose I, I wasn't getting it quite right. So thank you for clearing that up. It's, it's, it's a word salad that's hard to parse through. So I don't blame you at all. But I think what really helps with that is this concept that he brings up in um 0.2 of defining God's love. And I'm just pulling, I'm just moving there forward because I think it ties well to here and says the love of God is free, spontaneous un evoked un cause God loves people because he has chosen to love them. And as of now, I will say this, it's a bit calvinistic for me. OK. So, so, but I get what he's saying in, in this spra Yeah. OK. So that, that's why I'm, I still highlight it and why tie it back to that concept of scripture does not allow us to suppose that because God's love, we may look to him for happiness of people who will not seek holiness, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I, I think it ties in. 

That's why I, I bring it up now. I'm not trying to skip a whole segment of the book just because I'm like, hey da da da, it's, I think it ties in. That's why. So. Hm. And, and explains a little bit more about why God may shield some people and not shield other people. Um So was there anything else in this area that stuck out to you? 

There's nothing till the end. OK. Pretty much. Yeah, because he keeps talking about God's love is God's love is God's love is right. Uh So under 0.3 I, I highlighted this God's purpose of love formed bef before creation evolved first, the choice and selection of, of those whom he would bless and second the appointment of the benefits be given them and the means whereby these benefits would be procured and enjoyed all this was made sure from the start, I'll say this, that's a very calvinistic statement. So take that is with the, you know, piece of salt, big piece of salt, big chunk of rock salt. Um But what I I highlight for was this God's purpose of love formed before creation. In other words, it, it was there from the beginning where you believe that God, the Armenian view where, you know, God knew who would choose him. So therefore, he loved those or the Calvinistic view of God chose who would love him. 

You know, very subtle difference in some words, but very important differences. But regardless of that it's saying, but that's from before creation, from before time. In other words, this wasn't a last minute ditch deal that God did after Adam and Eve screwed up. This is God kind of knew what was gonna happen from the start and yet he still chose to go through with the painfulness that is called humanity. Mm And the next part I have highlighted is under 0.5 which is this, the measure of love is how much it gives. And the measure of the love of God is the gift of his only son to become human and to die for sins. And so to become the one mediator who can bring us to God. Hm. Now there's a word under there just a couple sentences under that what I just read. 

There was there ever such costly munificence that means gift. That means gift. Yep, that's all it means gift. Why, why you gotta, why you, why you gotta use a word like that dude. He uses a word like that because He loves, he's fancy, he loves to be fancy. Hm. So yeah, any of those words that come across, I'm like, nope, I'm looking that up and when I'm on my network at home, I literally just highlight the word and it defines it for me right away. 

So, you know, it's not that hard fancy. Um, another word for Aaron here. No, no, it's under 0.6. And I thought, I, I found this funny that this was in this book here. Uh It's the second paragraph of 0.6. It goes, it is in, I'm gonna read from the start all Christians inherit this promise through faith in Christ. What is this uh promise here? 

God's love, sinners reach its objective as it brings them to know and enjoy God in the covenant relation. So that's what this promise is. As Paul argues in Galatians 3 15 or 29 what does it mean? It is in truth, a Pantech promise, Penn and Dixon promise whatever Pantechn IC on what it contains everything. 

You know what that is. It's a large van to transport furniture. In other words, she's saying it's a large van. It's a large container. It's a large promise. It contains everything. Sometimes I just the, the stuff like that makes me like you less. Just kidding. So, was there anything else that you had highlighted in here? 

I hm, this is pretty much what we do. Uh Just the end of it. OK. And I don't know. I mean that's, oh boy. Gosh, we live in. Oh, ok. So it is the whole, a little, there's the, it is true that God is loved. Wait, is, is it true that God is loved to me as a Christian? And does the love of God mean all that has been said? If so certain questions arise, uh, why do I ever grumble and show discontent and resentment at the circumstances in which God has placed me? Why am I ever distrustful, fearful or depressed? Why do I ever allow myself to grow cool formal and halfhearted in the service of the God who loves me? So why do I ever allow my loyalties to be divided so that God has not all my heart? 

I wish that wasn't an issue. But I mean, I don't know, I basically just had, sadly because we are human and we have a lot of issues. One. But I guess that to me just makes me think of the importance of the church and of the Holy Spirit where it's like we really got to be taking advantage of that like it. And after so like after nights, like I had at the worship night, that makes me think of those questions is like, well, yeah, what the heck am I doing? But then as soon as I, you know, have too many late nights just not will one go to bed at a reasonable time and I just get dreary and cranky and grumpy and I'm just like, and one depending on how you take care of yourself and you have issues and just, it's so easy to let one, well, one, it's easy to let small things get in the way and cause issues and then once the big things come in the way, then it's just like why. But then often times I, well, I, whenever I get into those mindsets and moods, it's, I'm not spending time one either, like in the word or I'm not like, going to God right away and things, I'm just reacting and just how I think things either could happen, pan, pan out and just think of, well, this isn't what I want and I'm gonna be upset about it, which I was actually really, I mean, at, in the moment I was very upset with, um, what had happened to me? Gosh, how many years ago, years ago was that when that happens? That 2013, 2014? I don't know what Josh? 

That's almost 10 years. I don't know what you're motorcycle. Oh, yeah. Well, you were just about 18, right. Yeah. Well, that was, yeah, that was going into my senior year. So it was 2013. It was 10 years ago almost. And you're turning 28 this year. Shut up. That would be 10 years. Oh, my gosh. That's almost, that's, it's, it's been a decade. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Yeah. So, how do you think I feel? 

I'm sorry, I just man in, in the first immediate moment of when that happened I was picked off. Um I just, well, I remember just like sitting up. I probably, I screamed something I probably shouldn't have. Um, well, I didn't, I don't know, screamed yell, whatever, same, same different. Uh And then thankfully, I don't know, it's just ii I don't know, it's just in the, you know, blink an eye or whatever in the moment. I was just like my mind went from super mad to, it's like, hey, what's happened has happened? How do we go forward like your anger and all this other stuff? 

If you're trying to like let this all out and get whatever it is out of your system, it's not gonna make anything any better. And man, as soon as I saw was that hit me? Oh man, it was hilarious. Um But I guess in my mind there's no, there's no way. Um that I guess. No, I don't know. 

I just, I guess I'm just guessing I'm this was it the spirit that helped me have that like change and like heart mindset or whatever in that instance. Because after that I was just thinking, I was like, man, I was like one, you're still here. Yes, your arms are screwed up. They'll get fixed. And I mean, I'm not OK. II I was like, man, that was one moment where II, I lost myself a little bit. 

No, it was in the hospital room. I just, well, I, I started starting to break down or whatever because the doctor had come and he's like, yeah, I was like, these, these, these injuries here are gonna be pretty life altering. And I was like, oh, no, I was like, I like my music. I like hitting my drums and playing my guitar. So, I mean, obviously in my mind I was like, dude, I was like, I'm never gonna come back from this sort of thing. Obviously, that's not the truth. And it's just like in those moments, it's, it's, well, yeah, that's where it's very important to, thankfully have the community that I, I had that. 

I'm very blessed with that where I mean, people from church all came over, friends came, family came over and it was very supportive and it, but that's the thing with the church where, yeah, I remember when Toby had come over, he's like, I just want to make sure you're not like, you know, grow spiritually like getting cold or whatever. So you want to come and talk with me and whatnot and pray. And it's like in those moments, it's like that does defeat that, like the sinful mindset that we'll have where it's just like all doom and gloom and just like, uh why I trust in God, you know, he obviously he's gonna let this happen to you. And just so I guess the whole joke thing, curse God and die sort of thing. Yeah, I know it. But it's, it's so, it's so difficult to have that mindset where it's like God is obviously in control. 

I'm gonna take care of you sort of thing. It's just so much in my mind wants to tell me otherwise because I were human. Good way to put it. I hate it so much sometimes. Um, probably got way too quiet so I hope that he picked up. But, uh, I mean, I'm just thinking of all the conversations you and I have had over all the lovely things that have happened within the, how many years? 

Not at least 10. I really, our, our friends have really picked up after giving the Barbi Cole at one time, not giving, being forced, your dad forced it. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, that was like one of the first things I remember clearly is like, because before then it was just kind of really surface level. Yeah. But, yeah, since then, so 10 years now all the conversations, all the things that have occurred. All the. Yeah. Yeah. The devil is hard at work. 

Very hard at work. He ain't, he ain't going out without a fight. No, that's where it, man. And, yeah, it is so important that the, well, the church sticks together and well, one stays in the word. Mhm. Studies? Oh, it's just keeping that, keeping that up and being consistent with it is what's gonna make all the difference. Yep. And that can be hard. 

Especially for a man like me. Oh, which obviously, you know, all too well, black man in a lot of ways. I'm not that uns for me in a lot of ways. That's right. You with everyone. Yeah. Is different to some degree. But it's, we're all a heck of a lot more similar than we think we are. Sometimes do. Yep. Even when we have differences, we still have a lot of similarities there that cross those differences. Anything else on this chapter or the previous chapter? I got nothing. All right. I'm gonna stop rambling. So. No, that sounds good. Oh, that was chapters 11 and 12 of knowing God.