Rusty Shipp: Bottom Of The Barrel

Greetings Podcast fans. Hey, guess what? You're not seeing, you're not seeing video. Why is that? That's because me Paul. Um Yeah, I was an idiot. Uh When we went over to Art Prize, I put my camera on four K mode and forgot to put it back down to 10 80 P mode. So when we went to record and I wasn't paying attention to the video, a little monitor screen for my camera the entire time, didn't realize until afterwards that uh it only recorded the 1st 14 minutes. So I apologize. There's no video this week. 

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You just won't be able to see the stuff that I refer to on the screen. That's OK. You can go to the links and watch the stuff yourself. All right. That being said on to the episode. Hello again, everybody look at me. 

I'm not a floating big head with his chin cut off on your screen anymore. For those of you who are viewing the video, dude, chin was cut off. Oh yeah, like my chin was cut off or my hat was cut off. It was just like super zoomed in the last time for the last month. So like I said in my solo episode, hey, guess what? I'm not gonna be a cropped and zoomed in there. 

A a as it is, Aaron is with me again. Once again, he's feeling better, but I'm not all the way there yet. But this week we're gonna be talking about Aaron's new favorite band in the world that will replace August Burns Red in his heart forever. Not a chance. He will now be the roadie, the official roadie for this band, Rusty Ship for a Rusty Ship. And the song is bottom of the barrel again. 

If I could play any of these on here, I would. But unfortunately, I cannot just because you can just can't allow it on what I guess a majority of this dreaming. Yeah. Services. I, I the only place I could go would be youtube, youtube. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. But regardless so, so we could do fun for youtube people. 

We went over in the episode for August Burns Red where we talked about this, all the accolades and everything that this band has achieved. Which Aaron's like, I don't understand how they achieve these bands, these accolades. It sounds like a garage rock band. And then I go, oh, so like your country band. It sounds like a garage country band. I see. I was gonna say it sounded more like Skyr because at least that was rock. But yeah. No, you're, you're actually right on the, that I just want, I just want to mention that because Aaron is also in a country band called Afternoon Hangover. 

He's the drummer for that and they just released their first song on streaming services. So if you have like Apple music or stuff like that, you can go and um, Spotify and that you can go look for Afternoon Hangover. And what's the name of that song, Aaron? Why are you embarrassed about your own song? 

I wasn't ready for this. Do you think I was gonna tell you to be like, be ready to promote your own stuff all the time? No. Oh, man. So, well, the song name is, would you Come and Save Me? That's it. Yeah, I need saving right now. Would you come and Save me by afternoon hangover available on all streaming services? 

Everywhere you go, take a listen to and let Aaron know what you think about it and specifically listen for the drums and tell Aaron what you think about his drumming. They don't, I don't like them. You don't like them? I just kidding. Not that I don't like them. 

The song is, the song is slower than what we've normally played it at least live. So it's a little slower that, that explained why it's longer than the live version. Yes. And as the saying goes, keep it simple. Stupid. Well, that's what I did. 

So, as far as drumming, it was very basic. Nothing crazy. And also, so I need to practice to a click more often. Maybe my next uh, selection will be absolutely not. I don't care. No, I, I don't know. 

We'll see in, in that case, if we do that, then we'll have the entire band in here for a discussion on their song. Oh, boy. That, that would be interesting. That would be interesting. Not country boy reviewing a country song. I'm just, yeah, that would be, that would be something else. 

Well, you recommended a country song already know. But there was a reason why I did because of what he was doing. It was notable this, I'm going, hey, go listen to it. Only because Aaron's on it. Ah, not because of the singer or the guitarist or anyone else. Fair. Even though I've met them all you've met. 

Oh, well, I might not have met your bassist or whatever. I don't, no, you haven't met him yet, but the guitarist and the singer I have. And, um, yeah, yeah, we'll leave that story about the singer for another time. I'm thinking of when we're at the Mexican restaurant. I know exactly what you're thinking of. Little fun times. Anyhoo, we're talking about Russell Rusty Ship. 

Russell Wilson Rusty Ship, which, ok, the main singer of the group, his name is Russ T Ship. That's so weird. His full name is actually Russell Thomas Ship. Hm. But he goes by Russ T Ship. And, uh, of course, in an interview, they're going, well, what should we name the band? And they actually came up with all these other names and the band members. All. No, let's just do Rusty, Rusty Rusty Ship. All right. So it was more the band members. It wasn't like him. 

Like, oh, I want this to be named after me. Um, and he talks about that in an interview and I'll include the links to a couple of interviews that I was reading of from the band and Russ specifically, uh, in the notes here. So there are people in this band are Elijah Apperson on guitar, Michael Kraft on bass and a G AJ Newton on drums. Huh? Nice. So Rusty Ship. They're a self described nautical rock and roll band with a sound influenced by, in their own words, the melodic chord progressions of the Beatles, the surf guitar of Dick Dale, the grunge rock of Nirvana and the heavy metal of Led Zeppelin. 

I love Aaron's facial expression as he's, as he's hearing this from their own thing. All right. I mean, he probably just knows a lot more about music than I do. He's like, he's doing it for a living or at least at a, ok, you, you definitely hear, not, not necessarily in bottom of the barrel, but you hear in other songs like the man, the myth legend, um, the surf rock guitar influence. 

Oh, no, I'm sure that I'm, I'm just, I'm taken back on the heavy metal of Zeppelin. I was like, I didn't realize they were a metal band. Yeah, Zeppelin was considered, is considered a metal band. Obviously. They're earlier than what is more the modern metal stuff. How, how is Zeppelin considered a metal band like even back in like, obviously, yeah, they were a rock band. 

How would they be considered metal led Zeppelin is cited as the progenitor of both hard rock and heavy metal. Their sound has been imitated by bands from Black Sabbath to Nirvana. They inspired hard rock bands to include acoustic elements of music and were among the first to experiment with Indian and North African music. But yes, they are considered, I never heard of metal. They're not considered heavy metal, but they're considered metal. 

I have never heard of that before in my lifetime. Interesting. All right. Yeah. And there's even an interview here in far out magazine. Where it says why led Zeppelin hated being called heavy metal because they weren't, I don't know, you gotta remember back when Zeppelin came out in that, right. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was of the devil. Oh, my goodness. Oh, man. They had drums and electric guitar in there, man. That was evil. But, yeah, so you gotta remember the, the difference in the ages, you know, obviously now, if they, if they came out now they would not be considered, I mean, that's what I saw. 

I was like, I wouldn't even consider metal back in the day. What would you consider metal back in the day when Zeppelin came out? It was just rock. Um, but I guess they probably would, they probably thought Elvis is rock and roll, which I guess to some degree he is though. Heck, people thought The Beatles were good. 

Yeah, I say that just to trigger Aaron. See, this is the thing. I don't, as far as The Beatles go. I don't know. I, it's funny because like, there's some stuff that I really like by them. But I mean, yeah, there's stuff I think they did was really good but I also to some degree don't understand, don't understand some of the hype and can think that they're overrated. But people say that we wouldn't have music that we do today if it weren't for them. And I kind of think that's a bunch of baloney but to each their own. 

I don't know, we can't look, we can't find out because we can't go back and change it. So it is what it is. But yeah. OK. So just to put Aaron's mind at ease here. Thank you. Do you know what some other bands that were considered metal works? 

Black Sabbath Gra Granted, this is just me looking up Black Sabbath on Google, it says rock band and they were more metal than Zeppelin was whatever. OK. Um So what, so here's a, an article from I'm, we're just gonna go through this real quick. I'm not gonna go through why for every artist it's from Loud Wire magazine. So their music magazine, right? Yep. The 16 bands and musicians who are considered pioneers of heavy metal. OK. The who the kinks like I'm not familiar with Jimi Hendrix. OK. Cream Iron Butterfly. Vanilla fudge. Don't know. Cheer Budgie Budgie. I have no idea. Led Zeppelin. OK. I'm gonna give why their reason is for that. 

They consider them heavy or metal as in, I can understand influences from, well, especially from Led Zeppelin being used in metal bands for sure, but I still wouldn't consider Zeppelin a metal band. So here's the reason why I'm going to read verbatim that from their little article here led Zeppelin, they need a copy editor because they say are often, it would be, is often regarded as the band that invented heavy metal for several different reasons. They weren't the first band to use Waling vocals, distorted guitars, deep bass lines and roaring drum fills. But they were the first band to blend all of it together. That's why they considered them one, the, the originators of interest to top it all off. They were incredibly loud. 

Black Sabbath formed the same year. But bassist Geezer Butler has even stated that led Zeppelin was their favorite band to listen to in the early days before they had an album out of their own. Hm. Speaking of which they put in the list. Black Sabbath. Yeah. And see that I get more. So deep purple. Step in wolf, sir. Lord Baltimore. Humble Pie, Grand Funk Railroad. 

Judas priest Alice Cooper. Atomic Rooster. Atomic Rooster. Yeah. Cactus Deep purple. Wait, didn't you just say deep purple? I might have. I'm like, I'm going through the list here and it's just like, or maybe you said, I don't know because, because it's like 20 plus metal albums turning 50 this year when this came out, right? 

There's one on here that just makes me question the Satir list. Yeah. Eric Clapton. Yeah. Well, let's say when you say Cream. 

Eric was on was in the band Cream. So I was like, what? Yeah. So, oh man, I'm not as familiar with Cream, but I know Eric Clapton. Wow. Yeah, I guess I, but anyways, let's get back to the, the topic at hand. What the heck? The heavy metal of Led Zeppelin. Uh again, that's a quote directly from Rusty Ship himself. 

Rusty, get out of here. Ok. The band, the band was formed in 2014. Ok. Ok. And he says, and don't take this as, um, like anything weird or like derogatory. But this was during an interview, he said, how did you find your band members? Ok. This was from a 2020 interview before bottom of the barrel was released. And he said, and this is, they're interviewing Russ from the band. 

He goes from Craigslist. I have to admit it was the bottom of the barrel at first as far as the people who responded to the ads. But it was kind of like, well, something's better than nothing. I was just trying to get something off the ground. So I got at least some people who are interested in playing music with me, even though there was a 50 50 chance of whether they would actually show up in practice. That's awesome. So he just put out an ad in Craigslist and in 2014, he got some people. All right. Wow. So this album that this is off of bottom of the barrel, right? It's right. It's on, um, do you remember what the name of the album is? Absolutely not. I just noticed the latest one. 

It's our latest one. Good job. Um Yeah, this is interesting on this, on this one here because the album itself, it like it. If you look at it on the cover, you just see dark side of the ocean. That's the name of it, right? But the full name of the album is this cosmic Innuendo volume one dark side of the ocean. 

This is apparently going to be a multi album concept thing that's gonna spread across multiple uh things. And as of today, they just announced new songs coming and the new album coming. So uh they didn't say if it was gonna be volume two or when did they release this album? This album came out in 2022. Oh, ok. Then, yeah. So previously they had another, another album, um and all their albums are nautical themed. Ok. But they had another album in 2019 named Liquid Exorcist. 

It's a concept work built around the subject of sea mine terrorism. Interesting. And then, yeah. Sea mind terrorism. And then this one is called again Cosmic Innuendo volume One Dark Side of the Ocean. It's, this is in their own words that they said in an interview. This album is a nautically themed concept album exploring the balance between dark and light descent and ascent men and angels. Hm. So let, let me ask you this, Aaron, I know you've listened to the one song but have you listened to the whole album all the way through straight? No. Ok. I did, I said on things a couple times. 

So, so this is um interesting. Just some tidbits I pulled up from various interviews that Chip did about this album? Ok. Is this article says with a few nods to Pink Floyd including its title. The album is divided into two parts. 

The first half consisting of 21.5 minutes is called Descent. This follows the descent of a drowned sailor s sinking past undiscovered creatures and mysteries to the bottom of the ocean where his soul is intercepted by a group of sea angels and taken to their underwater kingdom. The second half of the album also 21.5 minutes in length is called Ascent and explores the angelic kingdom ruled by Poseidon, the king Archangel of the ocean. After debating the danger involved, the angels decide to ascend and discover why men's souls are sinking from the ocean's surface with increased frequency with feeling of duty to help these men in the world above the waves which the angels ironically call heaven. Uh This album does contain several instrumental interludes that connect the tracks and they say is used to move the narrative forward. In fact, there's one song uh which the whole song is just part of the song Bottom of the Barrel. It's just part of that song and that's the whole like interlude connecting track song and it's on the ascend side of the album. 

Hm So even though they have, you know, the style, right, they still have a couple of different styles altogether. First off, they have the song called fish in the sea in the style of a, a sea shanty, a traditional work song once commonly sung aboard large merchant sailing ships. While Angel Aquarium fuses Ska with fragrant guitar driven rock. According to this article, that was an interesting way to describe it. Fragrant guitar driven rock uh descent ends with bioluminescence. A brief, hauntingly beautiful piano ballad, reprising the chorus from bottom of the barrel. Like I just mentioned just a second ago, man. 

Myth legend is a rolling of punk rock gem fueled by marvelous psychedelic tinged surf guitars. And then here's something that they do unique. Each of his three albums includes a cover of a classic rock song by a famous band. Their first album, Mortal Ghost featured the Beatles song, Helter Skelter, Liquid Exorcist featured audio slaves. Show me how to live and dark side of the mood includes Pink Floyds us and them, them. Uh So I was just scanning the album right now. It was just like, hm, which one of these is it? Yeah. Nice. So that's just a little bit of the, the back story, you know there with, with all that, the, the lyrics themselves, they're not that long of lyrics for this song. No, that's sure. Yeah. Now if you want to know more about this album, you're like, oh, I wanna listen to this album, right? 

I love, I, I would, I probably did listen to some of it when I first put the song on when I was listening to it on the computer and then forgot to have it repeat just the only the one song. So I probably made it through some of the album. I don't think I made all the way through. Did you read the bad story to the album? Heck, no. Ok. I'm not gonna read it here because it would take a few minutes to read. But if you go to Rusty Ship dot com slash story, hm. It says read the story as you listen along to the album and there's the descent side and the ascent side. Hm. So you know, you can have 21.5 minutes to li to read and listen. Right. Well, yeah. And of course, here's a line from it and so naturally as is the law of the earth, he died, there's a line from descent right there for you. Nice happens. And, but here's the next line after all the wages of sin actually is death. Yeah. So read it. I read it. I was like interesting. Yeah. And then all the artwork, uh he actually commissions a guy local to the, in the town that he lives in to do all the artwork for them. So with all of that being said, all right, why are you going, why are you just in there? Dudes are interesting. Yeah, that they, that they are so Mr Johnson without me influencing anything all you want, I trust me iii I know how to deal with you and my mother because you both are the same way. 

I love that immediate. That's, that's wonderful, beautiful and poetic. Anyways, let's go ahead and start lyrically. OK. What are your thoughts? Lyrics on this sucker? I don't know. I don't like that. 

I don't, this is only because of August Burns red. Uh I have a bias but I don't like when he says Mariana Trench, I like Mariana's trench. That's because August burns, right is wrong. Just sounds better that way because if we, no, I, I'm not disagreeing that. It sounds better that way because we, but it is, I know it's Mariana Trench. The Mariana Trench. It should be Mariana's trench. Dang it. Oh, well. Um, I mean, I don't know what, ok. So what is the Mariana Trench, by the way? It's the deepest part in the ocean that we know of? Ok. Where is it at? 

I don't know, in the ocean. It's in the ocean. I'm glad it's in the ocean and not in the sky. Well, that would, but that wouldn't be a trench. Then think about this really hard. Where would the Mariana Trench be by? Maybe the Mariana Islands? Sure it is. Where are those? I don't know the Marriott Islands worthy. 

I don't know geography. Ok. Uh Where is the Mariana Trench? I don't know. It's somewhere in the ocean. Um, gosh, what ocean, what ocean? Which ocean? Let, let's narrow down to that. Oh, gosh. Well, depending on which way you look at it, it's either east or west of the United States of America. 

Um, I try to edit this to not, to make you look hard. I don't care, I don't study the earth. Um, ok. So if I'm looking at the United States boom, I wanna say it's, would be southeast. I don't know how I like the Caribbean or by Africa or by where? 

J oh boy, I know, I, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know why. I just want to say the Mediterranean Sea, but I don't know. Ok. That would work so nicely if it was Mediterranean, Mariana together. But no, no, no, I know that's not the case. I, I honestly don't know. 

All right, trying to think Mariana Trent is east of Taiwan and the Philippines holy in the Pacific Ocean. So that's, it'd be, it's east of Japan even. So, I mean, so, so the Mariana trench was established as a US National Monument in 2009. Really? At its deepest part, the maximum known depth is 10,984 plus or minus 25 m, which is 36,037 plus or minus 82 ft. Wow. Ok. And that's at the southern end of the small slot shaped valley in the floor known as Challenger Deep. Challenger Deep. Yeah, the deepest point of the trench is more than two kilometers or 1.2 miles farther from the sea level than the peak of Mount Everest Everest. 

That's wild at the bottom of the trench. The water pressure exerts a pressure of 1086 bars or more than 1071 times. The standard atmospheric pressure at sea level sounds like a bad day at this pressure. The density of water is increased by 4.96%. In other words, water is more dense, more compact at this and the temperature at the bottom is 34 to 39 °F. So just above freezing, freezing cold. Wow. Yeah, it doesn't sound like a fun place to go to. So yeah, you're not gonna survive down there on your own. Oh, heck no. Well, but now that we know we got technology for that one day, I mean, if it's in the meg we can, we can do it so we can make it. Ok. So beyond the lyric of the Mariana Trench, the Mariana Trench thing, that is the lyric I probably liked the most was the still your love is bottomless part. But why? Mhm. Well, I guess for me just thinking of, oh, Fred doesn't have to, does it have anything to do with the Well, I mean, I don't know, I guess have anything to do with the song for me. Uh Just the thing of my own is how that's like Christ slow for us is bottomless. Sort of thing where, oh, also it's funny when we were at the, the art pricing and we saw that lovely art piece of the glowing mushrooms and you're like, you know what that word is? It's in one of the songs that were going over and I was just like, what? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, the first time I definitely, when I first I heard that I didn't even think it was that word. 

I thought he was just saying bioluminescence or something. That bioluminescence. I was like, bioluminescence. Ok. For those who maybe don't know what is bioluminescence. I don't remember. It's cost. I can't put it in the words. 

Can I, you don't have to be, you don't have to be, like, exact. But in general, what is it? It's like, and, oh, I can't do it because I can't even put the words together that I want to say. Use your words. Ah, I hate this. Well, it's something that illuminates or gives light but it's like an actual, like, but bi bio, biological, you said something? Yeah. No, a what? Like, it's like a living living organism thing by biological, whatever thing. Yeah. All biolumin bioluminescence is, is light emitted by living organisms. Yeah. Wow. Definitions. Gotta learn them. But, yeah, the first time I heard that was like, bioluminescence and then, no, it's like, yeah, I was like, oh, that's interesting. Ok. So bottom of the barrel. 

Um, because, or the love is bottomless that's, and then bioluminescence, bioluminescence. Cool word. But, yeah, it's interesting, interesting song. I write it. I, it's one of those things where it's like, I'm trying to think of, like, this is a band that, like, I could really, like, actually get into or they're just kind of like, yeah, a little bizarre for me. 

I don't know yet. Really? You listen to August Burns Red and you go, this is bizarre. I sure you got me there. All right. Anything else lyrically? And nothing really stuck out to me. It was just, um, yeah, that's, I don't know. No, not really. Ok. I'm a very simplistic, boring, mindless thoughts. What did you think? All right. So, first, the lyrics, first, we're gonna start with the lyrics because there's not a ton of them. No, there's, there's, there's like two verses and that's it, which is really in a chorus what you mean? Yeah. OK. So verse one which is very short. 

Spinning out of control beneath the world where black and blue are up and down. No air left in my lungs by now I've surely drowned. This is like a demented doctor Seuss reme. Yeah. All right. Uh Then we go down to the course down at the bottom of the barrel. Still your love is bottomless. 

The weight of the world is crushing me to a pulp, but it brings my soul to the surface. If I make my bed in Mariana trench, I'm welcomed to a city that's lit by luminescence. And then jam time and then verse two, the sea is filled with miles of flashing lights. Where would those flashing lights be from? Luminescence? Like fireflies on moonless night? My soul shines with the rest of them flesh and spirit both ignite and then goes back to the chorus like for twice. So yeah, the, the part that really stuck out to me was the bottom of the Barrel. Your love is bottomless thing too, right? And so I've learned, I went looking around and I found this little interview snippet here. 

I'm not obviously not complaining. I'm just gonna read it here. Uh In the interviewer, they were interviewing Rusty as this song came out because it came out as a single at first in like January 2022. So this song, this album itself was written during the pandemic. So nice and, and I have something about that here in a second too, but he goes, the interview goes, what lyric of this single Bomb of the Barrel do you think the world most needs to hear now in its current state? Now, remember this was happening back in early 2022. Um He goes this the main line of the chorus down at the bottom of the Barrel. Still your love is bottomless because it's so reassuring to know that when we get to whatever our bottom is, whatever our darkest state is that God is literally infinite omnipresent existing in the furthest place we could possibly ever go and beyond. And his love is with him wherever he is and he's more loving and understanding than we can even fathom. 

He knows us and loves us better than we can even know or love ourselves. So I found it interesting that you kind of pick that same phrase that I picked that also the author of the song picked as well. And so I was like, there's no better way to put it than the author of the song who did it himself right now of the album as a whole. He said it was written and recorded during the pandemic and instead of following the natural response of the world to react to the crisis with fear by retreating into our comfortable us and them sex and blaming them as the problem and the bad guys. This album tried very hard as challenging as it was at times to focus on the commonalities and good that still exist in all people in the hope that still exists for a world to bring us all together and get all our needs met. Hm. So I'll say this lyrically. It's simplistic. It's not very, it has a little bit of imagery sprinkled in there like like fireflies on a moonless uh moonless night soul shines with the rest of them flesh and spirit. 

Both ignite black and blue are up and down. Yep. And everyone knows kind of what that feeling is of no air left in my lungs. Yeah. Spinning out of control beneath the world and, you know, someone, most people at some point will go through something where they feel like that as well. So I was like, all right, there's lyric, uh there's imagery, there's directness, there's, this was like, all right, cool. So out of five, Aaron, I like the number three. Is that what you're giving it? Yeah. All right. Aaron gives it a three for the music because I can't do 3.5. 

Maybe we need to expand this for Aaron to just make him happy and then he's gonna be like, no, I want 3.55. Correct. Just to be difficult. All right. So you give it a three. Yeah. Give it a three. All right. What in your mind would have made it a four? What would have made it a four if you said Mariana's friendships? 

No, I'm gonna call on the judge here, then we're gonna override your, your ruling. Hm. What would have given it a four. Yeah. What would they have had to have done differently lyrically to make it a four in Aaron's World? Mm. Do something other than, what's the, what's the word? Naic? Nautical themed? You don't like the nautical theme. 

It's a hit or miss for me. I don't know, like for me, like which it shouldn't be, but it tends to be like when I think of like, nautically themed stuff. It's just like, oh, it's more like kid, kid stuff, dude. But the ocean is nuts. All the water, nautically stuff. Do you wanna know a song that would make a lot of people cry that they play? What? Wait, the, who the, the Rusty Ship Place like Davina when we were at life? 

I said, oh, if they played this song I'm gonna lose it. That's nautical themed. Mhm. Boy. And it's not a song they wrote. Oh, well, then doesn't, but it is an nautical themed, doesn't count. I'm just kidding. What is it? Navy hymn? Oh, I can imagine why that would get Davina especially. But that would get a lot of people who, or, um, you know, from that nine. 

Yeah, I can't tell you like why, I mean, I guess what if I think of Jonah and the Whale and I just always think of like kids story stuff when I think of nautical Lee. Yes, because, because I think of, um, Sea Mind Terrorism as, as kid themed. See my t what? Uh, so that was, I, I might have, yeah. So a Sea Mine Terrorism. 

Their album, their 2019 album, Liquid Exorcist. Oh. Is the concept work built around the subject of sea Mind terrorism? Oh, interesting. So they have songs on there called Mind Factory Detonator. The Ss Narcotic. Nice. Slow Your Mind. Not Mind Mine. 100 Crosses. Breaking Waves and it ends with Navy hymn. Hm. Yep. That sounds like kids. 

Sounds like kids stuff. Yeah. I, you know, you know, on their album, Moral Ghost Devil. Jonah Crack. Baby Hotel Bible Song of Storms. 

That's from Legend Zona. Um, tip of my tongue. The Lighthouse. Davy Jones. Yes. Kid themed. Absolutely. Ok. I didn't know if there's anything in particular that you, it was like, make it to a, for in Aaron's mind. Yeah. I don't really know. Ok. Uh, fair enough. Fair enough. Um, that's not a question normally ask you. So I know you haven't done analysis on it and you haven't done your word for word comparison charts and your, all that stuff. 

So, I get it. So for me, 3.5 for you, are you gonna give it a four? No? Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm using a three as well. It is pretty simplistic. It has some imagery in there. 

Um, it could definitely be a little bit longer. Not re use the course so much. It, it uses three times. Yeah. But how short is the song? 

Oh, I don't remember. You don't remember, huh? No. The song, uh, let's see here. And the song is number four on the album, by the way. Yeah. Uh, it's 3.5 minutes. Oh, it's average. It uses the chorus three times. 

So, I'm like, uh, it's, I mean, it's all I would like, if you would have thrown in another chorus for me or not. Of course. Excuse me. Averse. Verse Averse. So, if you had 33, then it would have been an easy four. Interesting. Yeah, I know. I'm simplistic like that in my life. That is interesting. Why? I don't know. I also like, I also like symmetry. 

I say I just have that balance, balance. I like things like that, but that's me. But regardless on to the next thing, the musical style of Rusty Ships Bottom of the Barrel, it was fun. It, that was like, I don't know, like it was a fun song. I liked the riff into the song. I mean it starts it off. Um Yeah, like as you kind of mentioned in the beginning how I thought it kind of just sound like it's like a garage rock band sort of thing. 

Now, I think that has more so to do with the sound of it versus what they were playing. Cause depending on if you took the same riff change some of the, the I guess tones of it and it, because it didn't seem super polished, it's, it's pretty rough, very fuzzy guitar tone. They go for fuzzy on almost all their songs. It was very fuzzy. Even their bass is very fuzzy. 

Well, that's, yeah, that's become a lot more of a I think. Well, it's been a popular thing to have like distortion and stuff on bass guitars. We're not talking just distortion, we're talking, it's like a full on fuzz and just Yeah. OK. Yeah, I, I think we need to un underscore exactly what we're talking about here. Um because give me one second here. Uh I think this part is gonna become like youtube only at this point here. 

Yep, it is because yeah, that's just how it is. Uh So this part uh sorry, audio only listeners uh copyright can't do it. Uh but for everyone else who is still with us, this is what I mean by it just fuzz and here I'm gonna pop this over full screen here for the video listeners. So if you haven't seen the music video, you can also see kind of a preview of what we're going to talk about with the music video. Yeah, it's very, very fuzzy in all the audio. There. Drums are pretty clean and crisp but, but the guitar, like there's a lot of distortion, all the drums are also very dead. 

There's no like, as you would say for like the seven, the classic rock sounding drums where it's just like it's a thud. There's no like ring or any like reverberation from the drums. It's just very flat dead sounding, which I think, which is good in this aspect. Yeah, but I think don't quote me on this, but I think from the videos I've seen and all that like one from them with inside the studio, you know what they used to record. Uh I guess. Sure. Sm 57. No, wait, what? Electronic, because every time you see him in the studio you see electronic drums. 

So, I hope that, that. Oh, no, no. That can't be electronic drums. I mean, I hope not. Like they could just be acoustic drum samples. 

I mean, that's very easy to do. Wow. Because they actually have a real drummer. It's not like, oh, no. Yeah, they have. But, and I'm trying to remember what he used at life. I don't remember. But I'll have to look into that because man, I've, it seems like there's a little more like every time they do like a little interview from the studio, he's always sitting behind electronic drum set, the drummer always sitting behind boy mates. 

I think there was one I found where he was behind the real one. So all the, like I had one pulled up right now. There's nothing. Um That's a little weird. It would be wise, but video wise he is sitting behind and like in the studio behind an electronic drum set, you could see the symbols are like that black plastic. You see um the bar, you know, that holds the electronic Toms and all that. Yeah. Uh And all I see is the word A Les. But yeah. A les. Yeah, because this was, this is when they were announcing early access of the album to uh people who are like on their p is that the whole thing or is that all you can just see, that's all I can see. 

So, it was probably an Alisa kit. Yeah, that's all I can see. I would imagine. Yeah. I don't know. The singer is sitting in front of it so I can't see the rest of it. 

I know Guitar Center has, has, or had one of those on display. I always liked playing on that one more than most of the other electric drum kits. So, I don't know what they were doing. But yeah, anytime I've seen them in the studio talking on stuff, it's, he's always behind that, but in the music videos, he's behind an acoustic drum set, right? Well, yeah, you can actually do it. Well, I mean, speaking of music video for this video specifically, we'll get to the music video, live recording, so we'll get to the music video in a second here. Anyhoo. So beyond those couple comments, the fuzz, the fuzz, I noticed the fuzz immediately. 

There was so much fuzz in this entire song. I wish I could say this was unique to them uh to this song. It is not, but I think that's also intentional uh because of the fact that they say that it's underwater, right? It's the underwater. But so for example, um we're gonna push some stuff here. OK. Uh For example, at the beginning of this song More Fuzz. Oh Yes, I mean, is that same album, right? And I guess that was gonna be another question if you've listened to other albums is all still the same kind of sound. 

Um, I've listened to a couple of ones we listened to one last time. Uh, like Hotel Bible. Ok. Here's another one, same album or different. Different, ok. A lot cleaner than, well for now could just be the song or it isn't. Ok. So, they don't, they, at the base that the bass player? 

Yeah, the bass player, different bass player at this point in time, um, dressed up in a ninja girls costume. Um, a lot cleaner though at that. Well, that's that song. Yeah. Uh, and that song was called Clean Tones on the new, the latest album that, that song was called F Words. You don't mind. Nice. Um, referring to the word fun. Like as a kid. Not, that's funny. Not Aaron's that poor, the wrong song. 

I'm sorry, it, I went to their page on youtube and it, I start playing that. And what song was that? That was the bottom of the good job. Yeah. So, like, here's another one, right? Yeah, I know. That's another thing. It's all very, just like in your face. Aggressive. Well, no, not daddy. 

I was gonna think like, ok, so our mutual friend Jonah would be like, there's, he couldn't do this because there's no Raver about any of it. It seems like, like it's all just raw, just, uh, guitar tone. Like there's no other special effects other than distortion and fuzz there's no, like, ambient d, like, spacey going on. They don't do, they don't do that. 

Which would be great for Nordic stuff. Yeah. Nordic above water. But they want under underwater. Do you, have you tried listening to sound underwater? It does not reverberate well, at all. 

Oh, I guess it's, I see. Let's make, let's make, make you underwater headphones. See how well that works for. You make me underwater headphones basically. Because whenever people, like, make sounds to imitate whales or, um, like submarines, it's, it's like, got that, like, pitch and it just rings like, but like, just like, kind of like, fades out. 

It's not just, it's just like long and drawn out. Like when I think of swells that also makes me think of water. Like when you're doing guitar swelly stuff you're thinking of like waves. Yeah. So, sound moves completely different underwater than it does in the? Yeah. Ok. Is it slower or faster? 

It's probably slower, right. Yeah. No, it's faster. It's faster. It's faster underwater underwater than it is in the air? Huh? That's interesting. I think you'd have more to fight through and travel through. But I guess, I don't know, but it, it just because it travels faster does not necessarily mean it's clear. 

Oh, I was gonna say that I did a video underwater some years ago where I was locked up and we were picking some handcuffs and a lot of people were commenting that the video was fake since they could hear the sound of the handcuffs. The fact is sound actually travels faster and you can hear it better underwater. You said just here on some experiments with it here, first Melanie were to tap the ladder right next to the camera with this small wrench. Then she swam to the other side of the pool and tapped the ladder over there and as you hear, it's a little bit lower but not much. 

That's a, that was a big difference. Yeah. Did you hear that? The, it being tapped? Yeah. But it was a lot, it was lower. It was a lot more mixed in with that ambient background water noise. 

Yeah, that's what happens. So, but anyways back when I hear ambience, I think of water not just thuds and nothing to it. But yeah, back to your la your led almost called him Led Zeppelin. One of the, one of their songs. Oh, I think it, yeah, dazed and confused is the song. There's like a section where he uses, um, like a violin bow or something like that on his guitar and like does this whale sound? And so like the whale sound is very, just like, I don't know, I guess it's not short and like, I don't know, nothing to it. It just, it has this reverberation to it and it's just like drawn out sort of things like, well, that, that's so when I think of think of that. 

That's what I think of for like, watery sounds and stuff just like, oh, yeah. Drawn out very, uh, oh, what's the other word that I was thinking of that? I probably might have said earlier other than ambient. I don't know. Ok. So that's what you said the mix is very dead in their songs. 

At least for the harder rock sections of it that I've heard so far and I haven't listened to the whole album so there could be more, I'm sure there's plenty of variation. Hopefully throughout the album, it's not all just the same. There is variation. Um, there's one song, uh is that on that album? It's on this album and yeah, it's all over the place. Yeah, it is. It, it really is. 

Um, the name of the song and let me get over back to the album here because I can never remember what it is off the top of my head. Um It is called King of the Deep. It's a very interesting song and it's from the perspective of three different parties. So you have the Sea Angels, the man that drowned and the Poseidon and all have three different, very different vocal features in them. It is actually kind of ridiculous, kind of cool. And there's a lot to listen to and keep track of there. Hm. But yeah, all of them are, are different. 

Um, yeah, and in a little different way, but they all share that same thing I will say. Like, was it? Yeah, man. Myth Legend. That one is just, mm. Uh, how do I put it this way? Wow. That it starts off very much. Yeah. This is old school surf rock. Mm. If you, if you're familiar with old school surf rock, no. 

Well, like beach boys. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of his influences too. He says, like, he loves beach boys here. How I think we could do this without getting in trouble. But nah, you, you will, I know, I know I will. 

That's the, that's the price I'm willing to take here. All right. You hear that very much? That, that Surfer Rock? I'll say this. Uh uh this wasn't uploaded by Rusty Ship themselves. So that, that is a lot more distorted than it is. Like when you hear it on the actual album, like they were just doing that to get around like the auto detection algorithms in youtube because there's someone else who uploaded it. Interesting. Yeah. So I, I'll say this, the, the official song is a lot less, there's a lot less distortion on that but still distorted. So all that being said when it comes down to it. 

1 to 5. Yes. Oh, I mean, I found myself bopping my head to it as I listened to it and drumming on the desk. So I'll give it a four. Oh, I was like, oh, he's gonna give it a two or something No. So, like, II, I enjoyed, like, listening to the song and stuff. 

Um, I, I, the other thing was, I did, like, I do like, like some of the melody stuff he's got going on in the song. I mean, I do really like what he does for when he says Mariana Trench, I don't like that. He just says Mariana Trench, but I like the melody he has going on there just overall, I mean, yeah, it's just good singer. OK, for sure. Yeah. No, definitely. That's the thing like, uh it, it, it makes me think of being back in Sky Rat where it's just rocking out as friends and having fun with it and like, I like the fact that it's different to a point where it's just not, it's not the same as everything else out there in the radio world and whatnot. Like it's their own sound for sure, which I tend to like that stuff more than just everybody sounding the exact same cause that gets kind of boring. Um But then that also my biggest thing with people like with music that gets released is may, I, I don't know, maybe there's something else to it that I just don't know, but it's like the different, like the volume level differences between from switching from album to album or artist to artist sort of stuff. I hate that. But yeah, that's something that drives me nuts. Yeah. So in that regards, I hate when there's, like, different. 

It'd be nice if there's almost some, like, universal, just like everyone's the same in some regard. But, yuck, I wouldn't wanna do that either. I'll live with adjusting the volume, depending on how some stuff is. Yeah, definitely enjoyed it. Ok. What are you giving it? 

I wrote my number down while we were talking about it. So that way you can't go, well, you're copying me or anything. I influenced your decision. No, like while we were writing, while we were talking this down, I wrote down my number, I gave it the number that is two. Are you above 224 or 52 above two is four. We're not, we're not doing relative. Ok. So I wrote my number down a little while ago and then I was just like, ok, let's see, everyone gives it. 

Ah, so I gave it a four as well. I enjoyed it. It's good. Yeah. So it's fun. Now, the next thing and so before we do this, I'm going to say this uh oh, I don't know about you. And so the next thing is a music video. 

Yeah, the, that seemed like a music video I would have expected from like Sky RT. I don't know whether to be offended or that'd be a good thing. I'm gonna get offended. The type of music video I expect from uh afternoon hangover. No, we could do better than that. No. So the music video was directed by Rusty's wife. Joy. What? See, my question is what even needs to be directed about that Rusty jumping? Oh, wow. And when the Davy Jones character came out? Ok, I guess. But like, did he not jump during his live performances? No. Remember they had just, like, video sequences of him, like doing a dream jump or just like him alone jumping? It's like, ok. All right. Yeah. All right. Never mind. Yeah. So yeah, that they've done three music videos for this album so far. The newest one just came out, right? 

Two of them are in this style are in the live performance style. This yeah. So we have uh this one bottom of the barrel and living waters are both in the same style living if you watch bottom of the barrel, it is very blue. Everything is so blue. It is very like it is over saturated blue to the point that the skin like, you know, if I like if I took you just take a blue light on me and flash. 

No, it was way more than that. It's like you take a blue light flash on air and then you turn the saturation up so much so that the like you see like the cheeks start to glow because it the saturation in that is turned up so much. Don't believe me. I'm gonna pull it up on my screen right now. I don't remember everyone at home to see. 

Oh yeah, it is, it is. Um it is quite the intensity. Like everything is like ii I would turn my screen around but it would break everything. Um For example, I have a, a picture up right now on my screen where it is the second guitarist, right? Yeah, it is so blue and so like turned up where like the head stock of the guitar is like one bl blob and the face is there but you barely get any other detail because it's all so blue. Yeah. And then it, it's, it's just a, a performance of them singing along to the recording, you know, II I see their instruments are plugged in but I doubt they're actually like playing the actual thing. 

Yeah, I mean, they're probably playing along but it, it's the recording. I'm just, yeah, I'm trying to look at like examples if you, if you go to time frame 204 in the video, this is like one of those like old washed out. Yeah. Thanks. It's just so the saturation, the rough. Um And then of course Davy Jones comes out at about 2 22 25. What I forgot. I like the like is that like the Kulu? Like? Yeah. Yeah. And then it changes from all blue to blue and like this yellow green at like 2 35 where the skins are now like this weird psychedelic greenish thing. 

It's like a sea foam. It's because they're underwater. Come on, come on, people, they're underwater. Sea foam. So they did that, right? And then for uh living waters, which is their newest mu music video. 

It's green instead of blue. It's basically the same thing but green. Um and they have like a video of water flowing in the background. Nice. If you like this song so much. Yeah. And if somehow people online, I'm sure Aaron has a price. 

Aaron always has a price for things. They released. Bottom of the Barrel karaoke version for Aaron to sing along to. No, no, no. It's literally the music without the singing and the words are on the screen. Oh, no. Uh Should I somehow convince Aaron to do it for a National Care for Internet? Oh, National Karaoke Day? 

Find out when that is, uh, that's not a thing that doesn't exist. Really? No, no, I know anything and everything exists and what if it does? Oh, I know it does. I just don't want it to May 25th. That, no, that's not. Ok. The national karaoke day is May 25th, 2024. What you think you're gonna get me to do karaoke two days after my birthday? No. Ha. Uh I admit I've only done karaoke once. 

I don't think I've ever done karaoke. That was my first year of college. It's because a guy, the guy I was friends with, he was, he went up to do it and he did like boy band karaoke and he was dying alone. So I was, like, fine. I'll be embarrassed with him. Nice. Nice. Yeah. I don't think I've ever done karaoke. 

The only seeing this where their goal is to get me to do karaoke. And I was like, the only way you're gonna get me to do karaoke as if I can wear my Corey Taylor Slipknot mask. Have it be a metal song where I can just make noise anyways. And I was like, you definitely have to get me liquored up for that. And I was like, that's not happening. Leave a like in a comment if we should somehow get Aaron to do a karaoke. Uh No, and somehow we have to figure out a way for someone to pick the song. Gosh. Um, ok, so, so music video, music video. Uh Well, well, well, trust me figure out a way. But anyways, what, what would you rate that? 

I mean, uh, and I already have my, my rating written down just now at most of three, lowest of two. Which of the two would you like to select? Um, round two? You did the same thing. This is becoming Polos all over again. Paul did it too. 

Yeah, I did um, for the, the story about Polos, listen for the art price thing which I almost wore that Polo today. Oh, I was like, what am I wearing? You forgot. Yeah, this is what kind of day it is for me today. Oh, ok. My brain is gone. All right. Two more questions here, Aaron. Yeah. Um, and then I have something to say as well. 

Question one, question one, which is one of the questions I ask anyways every time. Yeah. What is it? Biblical? Yeah. Yeah, I already have my answer written down three. Ok. Is there, let me ask this and you might go. No. Um, was there any particular reason why three or like, was there a reason? A three? Not a four or three? Not a 22? Um, I guess if it didn't include the bottom of the barrel, love being bottomless thing would have been to mainly because I think that's probably what made it a three having that in there otherwise because, like, I don't know where it talks about. Yeah. What, um, like lungs being out of oxygen or air or whatever and the whole black and I don't know, like, when I heard, when I heard the line, like black and blue, I just think of, like, for me and I imagine just being, like, beat up, beat down, sinking the whole drowning thing. 

So, I mean, it's, I mean, there's plenty of stuff like that that, I don't know the whole being hopeless thing, but then having that realization of, um, the love being bottomless and it's like, ok, yay, hope yay truth. Bizarre. But, uh, yeah, he's indeed is, uh, ok, that's about it. I gave it to four. just kidding. No, I think it lines up pretty good. 

Um, obviously not perfectly. So that's why it's not a five. we're not talking like a song turned into, uh, uh, a song. Right. My brain actually stopped there, for example, I was, like, home that but, but there's nothing that's blatantly like, anti biblical. 

But, you know, and there's imagery in there and people go, wow, there's imagery, imagery, evil. It's fine. It's good. It's just twisting things up. So that's why I gave I was like, there's nothing objectively bad in here. There's nothing, no. And it's not the reason it doesn't get a five in my perspective is, you know, it, it's not like a direct quote of the Bible. 

There's no things that are pulled directly from it. It's concepts that allude to maybe summarizations of parts of the Bible. So that's what I was like. Huh? For so fair enough question. Last question. Doesn't make in your rotation, your playlist rotation. 

That was a, I was thinking about that. I would say yes as singing one. It's like one of those songs where I probably wouldn't go out of my way to listen to or like add the queue. But if I hit shuffle and my songs and the song came up and be like, all right. All right. So I'd had it. OK? I just don't know if I'd go out seeking it to start to listen to so for something, I don't know. Good. Maybe if I ever get in the Nordic mood, maybe I will go listen to a Sea Shanty. Yes. Oh, man, this is pushing my, um, my speech to the limit. C Shanty. Man. The amount of times I had to see, uh, speech therapy and say the word C shanty or really? 

Yeah, because me saying SHS is really hard. She sells, she, she shows at the Shisha. Yeah, I had to do that a lot too. Gosh, that's a rough one. Yeah. And someone goes anyways. So I'll answer, I'll answer the question real quick. Yes, it is. And I'll also say this, I am part of the ghost ship. 

You're a fan boy. Well, what's the ghost ship? I don't know. That's not just like signing up for their newsletter. You're, you're like, it's, is it like a Patreon thing where it's a nice, so I was like, you know what? 

They're doing some good stuff. I enjoyed them. I was like, I will give them some money every month. That's cool. So, we got all that. Yeah. Now spotlight turns to Aaron. So, what's the song that we're doing, sir? 

Well, it's Too Cold War, I suppose by Red Cold War by Red. And this is off the new album. Yep. I don't remember what it, how it goes. I know nothing about the song at the moment but it's new and it'll be cold by the time we review it anyways. So cold and cold. 

Oh, not Cold War. I'm an idiot. I can't read. It's Cold World and the world will be cold by the time. Wow. That, that's horrible. Johnson. Yeah, it is really bad. All right. Cold World. Not War Clay. Which I would have been lost. I've been like, where is this song? Uh, did you mean? 

Yes, I did mean that my bad. All right then, um, which there might, I hope there's a music video for it. Um Or I hope there's going to be, there might not be at the moment. It probably isn't because it's brand new album. So, but I have seen them posting on the Instas of them in like like Wild West outfits and got the old classic um lever action rifles and revolvers. And that was for a music video that premiered yesterday. What music video is that? 

I am not sure. Uh Cold World has, it looks like it's just a lyric video. OK. What's the nope, it's not even a lyric video. It's just the song itself. So it was, and it was only a no, it was only a 32nd demo. There is nothing for that yet but that's OK. Oh, there's uh so surrogates is the one that they had a music video for which was the first single on the album. All right. Thank you for joining us. We'll see you on the next one.