That tension between knowing what is right, and supporting the legal rights of those I disagree with.

Hey, hey, everybody. Happy. What is it today? The 26th. I'm recording of this, uh September 26th. I know. I know. We, we, we were gone last week, sorry about that. 

A couple of things. Uh Me and Aaron had actually gone on a trip to Art Prize in Grand Rapids the week before and just how schedules lined up. We didn't have anything recorded. Um I wasn't feeling the best. Uh Aaron actually wasn't sick. We were supposed to have a normal episode this week, but Aaron was sick. So I told him, hey, you know what? It's ok. Take time, rest up. 

I'd rather you feel better than try to hack a lung up while we're trying to record. And when I say hack a lung up, he was in pretty rough shape. So it wouldn't have uh flowed too well. So, and you know, so I told him just take away a week rest recover, relax and we all need that once in a while. We really do. We all need to take a step back from our busy life and say I need this time to refocus to heal up, to rest up for what's coming next and that, that's what just what was needed. So hopefully, you know, by God's grace next week, we'll be back to our normal self, our normal schedule, our normal both of us going back and forth and yeah, I know this past month I get it. I saw it. Uh My head was crazy huge on the videos. Whoops. That was my bed. 

I zoomed in too far. Take care of that Next time, lessons learned. You know, we're on a shoestring budget but you know, to do this, we're not making any money. Uh We do this for fun. So things will happen once in a while. You know what we live, we learn, we move on and uh we laugh about it along the way because if you can't laugh at yourself about things, what can you laugh about? Because often we, we own best sources of humor in this life. So before I got started in uh today's episode and i it's gonna be shorter. Um just because it's me alone and it has been a while since it's just been me alone on an episode. So before we get into that, what we are we covering in the next uh four episodes here. 

Well, obviously we're going to continue doing J Packer Knowing God. Ok. Yeah, it's been a good book. I do have some uh I guess you could say qualms with Packer but I he's human. I can have qualms with him, I can disagree with certain things he says. And that's fine. I can say overall the book is good. 

Well, I have these, you know, little things over here but they're not so much so, uh, of an issue that I wouldn't say, hey, it's not worth a read. So, Packer continuing on with that, uh, we're doing bomb with the barrel by Rusty T Ship which just drives me. I shouldn't say it drives me nuts, but it's kind of interesting that his name is Rusty Ship and then he named the band Rusty Ship Bub. Anyways, we're doing that as well. And then we're going to cover just our time in Grand Rapids Art Prize Art. Uh the responsibility we have for art and even the message that conveys and I'll have some examples of what I mean by that when we go through that. So that one, obviously, if you're listening on audio, you're not going to get what we're talking about, we'll, we'll try to describe it, but, you know, it is what it is as much as I'd like to be able to describe to you a piece of art. 

That piece of art is not going to be very well described in audio format unless we spend a lot of time doing it, which you know, not, you know, just go, go check a sound video on youtube. And then the last thing we'll be doing is talking about some Bible translations, some bad ones. Actually, some, actually some uh very bad ones. Uh The first one that was translated all through A i into pirate dialect. Yeah, it's as bad as it sounds already. OK, I get it. Uh We're also going to talk about the Passion translation and how bad the translation that one is as well as the CCP or the Communist Chinese Party's official translation that project that they have going on. 

They started back in about 2017 or so and they said it's going to be about a 10 year project before that Bible is translated. So we'll be talking about that having some excerpts from all those showing how they kind of change the meaning of the Bible um in, in some like the pirate horribly wrong uh just changing the whole meaning of the phrase. Um And then, and, and it was unintentional because again, it was all done by A I. So people are only reviewing it so much and when they're doing A I version, another reason why to be careful with A I usage. And then the other one is you like the CCP, they're intentionally doing it to change it, to fit their morals and their structure and what they want or in the CCP, just how it goes and then the passion translation. 

Yeah, we'll talk about that one. So that's coming up in the next month. So something to look forward to on that. Now, before I uh continue on here. I, I know I put this out on Twitter X, whatever you wanna call it these days, Lan's channel, whatever it is. 

Uh, that back in August, I was a part of another podcast. Um, as a guest wasn't like branching out doing a second thing here. Uh, that wasn't something that was happening. But anyways, this other podcast was called Other People's Shoes Podcast or, um, it could be found at the website ops podcast dot com. That's ops podcast dot com. And I'll pull up on the screen here. There we go. That's, that's the correct thing as you know, there was an open in there. 

So, yeah, back in August 9th, um, the episode is entitled Other Side of the Coin. And this was a guy that I saw, he reached out on Facebook and was like, hey, I'm looking for guests for my, uh, sea, current season of the podcast at the time. It was season 14. He's now on season 15, I was near the end of 14 and he said this is what I'm looking for, um, who's all interested. And I responded and said, hey, I'd be interested to come on. 

Little, did I know and little did the, uh, the guy who interviewed me who runs the podcast. Little little, did he know that I would actually be kind of like a rebuttal to a previous episode? And that previous episode is all the way back from May of this year, same season, same season 14, uh, this guy right here, Brian Netzel, uh, the episode title is agree to disagree. And I, I'll, I'll encourage you this. Listen to listen to the episode I was on because why not, why won't you? But listen to both episodes first off. 

I, if you have the time, it's like an hour, 40 time commitment, about 50 minutes each for, for each of us. Um, so hour 40 together, listen to both and hear how both of us have gone down different paths when faced with similar situations. And I'll say this, I do disagree with Ryan's interpretation of scripture that he has regarding the situation. Definitely disagree with that completely. Um A a as you all are aware as you've listened to back in May and if you listen to this episode, you'll listen and find out, you know, refresh her on your side of what it is that being said, if you listen, OK. And here, here, here's my statement on this. 

If you listen, listen, you can disagree. In fact, I'm, I would assume most people who listen here would probably disagree with Brian, which is fine but don't seek him out on like social media or the comments section of the podcast or whatever. Don't seek him out and just like brail on him or be negative or whatnot. If you're going to disagree, do so respectfully, do so kindly do so lovingly because that how we say our words, what we say matters yes. But how we say them also matters. Our language. Our words a a as they uh was brought up at church this past week have the ability to bring life or death. 

I can tell you directly. That is true based on where I have gone through in the past personally with mental health. And that words can bring either that life or that death to the situation, words can be helpful or they can be a big hindrance. And it's, it's real easy. It's really easy to be so negative and so mean and so evil in what we think is a caring way with someone we disagree with, especially when we go, oh you are twisting and manipulating scripture in a way I don't agree with and I would agree with you on that assessment, but there is a way to do it lovingly and caring with them. 

Still, I'm not saying to compromise at all of what scripture says. Far be it, stick to it, hold to it. But I'm saying that there is a way to go ahead and do it in a way that they will respond and listen and not immediately shut you out going. Oh This is just another one of those crazy Christians that thinks the Bible says this, this and this one, I think it says this, this and this. It's if you attack it with the negativity that our culture is so prone to doing. It's an immediate shutdown from the other person. So that, that, that's my first that I just wanted to throw that out there. 

But, yeah, so if you have an hour 50 go check it out. Um, I haven't listened to the current season just because haven't had a chance yet, been busy with other things, but it's definitely worth a listen. Now, the one thing I love about the internet, about the United States is the ability to host differences of opinions online and in person. And it's something that is great for, for now. 

Um, unfortunately, I fear that this may be something that we'll lose in the not too distant future. And that's something that I think is great about, you know, the current state of affairs that we're in, even seeing how dangerous and weird it can be at times in the political space and online with opinions and everything else. And so we'll see what it looks like in a year or two, sadly, because we do have elections next year. So I have a feeling that will accelerate whatever kind of social decay takes us into the Hunger Games type world that we are ultimately destined to be in. But I, I do appreciate that right now. We do have the ability and the freedom to disagree on subjects without one of us going to jail about it again. Currently, um, we'll see how this is in a year or two there have been some chilling recent events that kinda gives me that dystopian vibe and feel of things of people going are not going but being sent to jail for like 60 days or so. 

For words that they have said, which is really kind of concerning on multiple levels regarding this topic, which was covered in the podcast, other people's shoes, uh both my episode and the other episode. I know what the scripture says. Uh if you listen to the May episodes and if you talk to me in person, let's say so if you talk to me in person directly and everything, right, you, you'll know that I do affirm what scripture says about marriage and that you'll know that I will not go to a church that affirms gay marriage. It's not even an option. Like when I was searching for a new church recently, earlier this year, that was one of the criteria that they had to have somewhere in their statement somewhere, their stance on sexuality and marriage. Why is that important? Because I wanted a church that didn't that had that statement there. So that way they couldn't over time weasel away and say, well, we didn't put this anywhere. 

We didn't, we didn't say this directly. We weren't very specific about it. So always we've kind of been this way affirming, but now we're just being publicly affirming because I've seen that before. I've seen that with churches before and I obviously not me being a part of them, but I've seen that remotely with people. I know in those churches and then the things that happened and just watching, yeah, go crazy over time. So, like I said, regarding this topic, I fully know what scripture says. 

I'm fully in green move with it. And I have to say that now because even that's not AAA common thing, a thing that is get necessarily guarantee even in all evangelical areas and fields and uh people that you talk to this concept of same sex marriage and that is getting acceptance of foothold in the church at an alarming rate. That, I mean, yeah, we know people are sinful, people are gonna do what they want. But I never thought personally it would go at the rate that it does. So I never thought I'd have to say that, you know, that I'm full in agreement with, but most people from an even juggle background, but that they say is true. 

I never thought I'd have to say that I'm full in agreement with the Bible even though I follow that those evangelical lines because I know how those evangelical lines and traditions and all that are starting to change and capitulate to what the world wants. And I know that the Bible on this subject is not open for interpretation on that fact. And it makes me sad that, you know, churches are going well, it doesn't agree with my feelings it makes me sad, you know, and I, and I, I like Ben Shapiro for this one piece here where he says facts and in this case, biblical facts. Bib biblical foundations, biblical truth, biblical interpretation in, in the weird way of saying it. Now, the historical way of interpreting the Bible on sexuality, gender and marriage that doesn't care about your feelings. God's word is not influenced and changed by your feelings, regardless of how harsh that feels. 

It's the same and it's the truth. Today, yesterday, tomorrow, now I say all this, right? And, and, and I, and so I put that on one hand, on the other hand, II, I put, you know, the fact that I am an American, I am here in America where we do have the, this thing called the First Amendment. No, compelled speech. No, you know, force speech, we have freedom of speech. 

This doesn't mean that there's not consequences for speech. Uh We've all seen that, that, that is a thing but what it really means is the government can't come and say you must say this or you may not say this. Um However, we have seen even recently people jailed, you know, for 60 90 days because of things that they have said and they've been jailed by the government because of things they said. So there's kind of that fine line. That's why I said in a year or two, we'll see how it goes, right? And I'm all fine with free speech. Even if it's things I may not dis I may not agree with, I may not disagree with that means I would agree with them. 

Um, even if there are things that I may not agree with, I am fine of people having those opinions, having those statements and being able to say them, be able to protest for them, be able to do whatever, you know, why I'm fond of that because I'm confident in knowing something, I'm confident in knowing he who controls the fate of the world. I'm confident, knowing that he knows what happens next. And I am confident in knowing who is in charge and care of my soul. I don't have to fear about someone else's speech if that's gonna cause me to lose my salvation because my faith is in Christ alone. My faith isn't in what protester a over here is protesting about. And if they're right or wrong, my care and worry isn't about this person over here and then protesting about things and worrying about is that going to change fate? It already knows what's gonna happen and he's already laid the foundation for things whether we, however we may not see it or however we may see it. So I'm, I, that's why I'm like they can protest. That's fine. People can protest. People can um have these conversations on podcasts such as other people's shoes where I'm, I, I, you know, obviously I'm not the one editing it. So I have no control or editorial control over anything over there. But I'm fine with being on the same podcast, I guess, uh channel with this our person because I know again where my faith is, where my trust is. 

I don't have to worry about the fact that if he says something that's different than what I say, that there's gonna be any issues. My only concern is honoring and pleasing God, everything else. Yeah, let it happen. It's because of all that, that I don't care if people protest in opposition to um a group that I belong to or me directly. Um because of some view that I hold on to, that is consistent with biblical values and that can happen whenever, however whatever I, I remember back when I was a student at Cornerstone University. So this had to be oh jeez, sometime around like 2003, 2005, somewhere in there because I started going to Cornerstone in 2002. Um So Cornerstone University is in Grand Rapids, Michigan on East Beltline Avenue. 

Now East Beltline is kind of a busy road. It's kind of a big road. It's kind of one of the main thoroughfares there. So we have the university on one side of the road, the other side of the road we have uh what's called my Garden. It's an art and sculpture garden essentially. Uh It's pretty cool. 

We actually uh went there and walked around the Japanese gardens in, in there when we were there in Grand Rapids. It was kind of cool. It was under construction last time I was there. So I was like, hey, babe, you know what? We haven't seen that yet. So we went there anyways. So there was this protest going on to school and it was on the Myer side of East Beltline and it was regarding what was starting to become a bubbling point in the thing at that time. Um LGBTI A P plus um alphabet soup issues at that time, it was just L GB, you know, the letters have been added on many, many, many, many times over over the years since then. But while I was at the school, there was a big debate going on on what to do if the people crossed onto the school side of the street and onto school property as well as what to do if students from Cornerstone should go join in the protest as well. 

And, and the people who want to do that and the people who did do it, they argued that they were being loving to their neighbors and that's why they were crossing the line, so to speak and going to protest with them on this. Now, I had my thoughts on all that but think from above, it's pretty clear on what I think on that. But don't wanna spend too much time going over that right. Now, now, what this ultimately did do is this sparked a conversation in, in the dorms and in classes and that if people should be allowed to protest in a place like cornerstone, that at the time was pretty biblically solid. I, I say at the time, um, and as an alum of cornerstone, I'm actually kind of sad to see these things happen. 

Um, the previous president that came in supposed to be this great solid guy, he actually introduced a lot of de I initiatives into the school, which, well, that's the reason why they get 100% of zero from me. You know, because schools will call up their alumni and go, hey, you know, you, you enjoyed your time at this university, give us some money so we can, uh give scholarships and foundations and all this stuff. And I go, uh, no, you're getting 100% of zero from me. That, that's just how it is. 

Uh, but I digress, um, the conversation at the time, I'll me, I didn't fully grasp and understand things in life when I was a young college student. That, that, that, that wasn't expected of me to fully grasp that either. So I, I'll admit, you know, during that time, I was, I was very much like they shouldn't be protesting this, this is anti biblical, they shouldn't be doing anything like this. I've grown since then and, and like I said before, you know, they, they can protest it. I may not agree with it, but here, at least in the US they have the freedom to do so. And I would hope that and I know it's not gonna happen, but I would hope that if there was something that happened that I joined a protest for, you know, let's say abortion or something like that, that they would offer the same sort of grace and that I would now extend and say, oh, I don't agree with them, but they, they, they have the right to protest and do whatever. 

I know that's not gonna happen. But one could dream in a fancy land, right? So that's what I do. I dream in the fancy land in that regard. So, like I said, the conversation at the time, I didn't understand, I, I really didn't. And since then I've grown matured and the fact is that most people did I disagree with the most, those that I think they are outside of what the Bible says, even though I think they are 100% wrong, they still have the right, at least in the current state of the United States government in the United States of America to voice their opinions, to protest, to raise their voice. And as I've gotten older, so it pains me to see people do things like that pains me because I know the things that they are go that they are doing in the, some of the things that they are promoting that are outside the, the confines of biblical orthodoxy legally. 

They have the right. And honestly, like I said, even though I disagree with it legally, at this point, I will at least respect them enough to let them do what they want to do without interrupting them. It is their legal. Right. And, you know, now, obviously if I come across one and you know, they're yelling at me right in my face or something like that, we might have a conversation, but it's not gonna be one of those conversations where I'm yelling back or I'm cussing at them. 

I don't cuss to begin with really anyways. But this might lead to a conversation because I'm fine if you want to protest. But if you start getting my face, yeah, I, I've met sometimes the Mexican in me comes out and we might have to have a li a little bit of a, a conversation about things and how to be respectful of other people's opinions. Might be a little forceful conversation at first just to get them to understand and, uh, listen, but hopefully it comes down and it can be respectful in the end. Right. And like I said, I know they probably wouldn't protect my right to speak on things that they disagree with or protest or whatnot. But I would hope they would. 

I'd kind of live in that fancy land. Now, I say all that because the next thing I, 100% disagree with what this man is doing. But I believe like anyone else that I disagree with, no matter how much it pains me to say it, he can say what he wants and he'll just have to face legal consequences for some of the stuff. Uh, depending on if he crosses into saying stuff that's illegal or defamation or stuff like that at the same time, negative comments towards people that you disagree with. And, and if you've ever, if you've ever had someone that you have majorly disagreed with now, the phrase, you know, flies, you catch more flies with honey. 

That's not directly in the Bible. Now, um there's kind of the concepts of it but, but when I think of that phrase, uh you'll catch more flies with honey. So I think of um Proverbs 19. So let me pull this up here. Hey, look at that. It worked. So using my Fancy Dancy logo spiral software. So 19 1 through 14, um let us actually let me zoom in because I realize that that is hard to read on the screen. Look at that. That makes it so much easier for you to read on the screen, doesn't it? So Proverbs 19 and I, I read from the English standard version most of the time I don't use the desktop version most of the time I'm using the mobile version. But so if you see stuff hard underlined or highlighted, whatever. 

I don't think there's really any in here except for, yeah, right here. That's ok. Oh, no, I got a couple but they later on here. Oh, they're up in 18. Ok. Anyways, so 19, uh, so ignore if you see any highlighting or anything like that. 

That's because my notes, my highlights that I was taking it some other time. So, anyways, Proverbs 19 better is a poor person who walks in his integrity than one who is crooked in speech and is a fool. Huh? Which just side, quick, side note. And then I think I said this, um, my church recently started a series on speech which will be very interesting. 

Um, because I want to have Aaron listen to it and us have a conversation again about language because a, as any of you who know, you know, me and Aaron are two separate sides of this conversation. One, it's not one where it causes for the most part. It, it, it doesn't cause any issues. Um, this is one of those, I guess you could say secondary issues where, you know, internally we have a debate about it. Um, about language. Um I'm very much one who doesn't believe in swearing cussing and all that because I know the damage it can do where Aaron goes. 

Well, it's just a word, words, words have power. So we'll get back to that. That'll probably be something in, um, 2024 when the church finishes that series. I'll have a listen to it and then we'll maybe have a conversation about it, but we'll, we'll talk about that later. Ok. Anyways, sorry speech brought it up ad D A DH D brain. 

Sometimes desire without knowledge is not good. And whoever makes haste with his feet, misses his way. When a man's folly brings his way to ruin. His heart rages against the Lord. Wealth brings many new friends, but a poor man is deserted by his friend. A false witness will not go unpunished and he who breathes out lies will not escape. 

Many seek the favor of a generous man and everyone is a friend to a man who gives gifts. I'll tell you what that one is so true. I've seen that so many times even in my own life and I just assumed far away then from there. Ok? Because when I give out gifts, everyone's my friend. 

It's amazing anyways, Kim on all the poor man's brothers hate him. How much more do his friends go far from him? He pursues them with his words but does not have them. Whoever gets sent. That's a weird phrasing always and it always trips me up. 

Whoever gets sense loves his own soul. He who keeps understanding will discover good. A false witness will not go unpunished and he who breathes out lies will perish. It is not fitting for a fool to live in luxury, much less for a slave to rule over princes. Good sense makes one slow to anger and it is his glory to overlook an offense. A king's wrath is like the growling of a lion but his favor is like dew on the grass. A foolish son is ruined to his father and a wife's quarreling is a continual dripping of rain house and wealth are inherited from fathers, but a prudent wife is from the Lord slothfulness cast into a deep sleep and an idle person will suffer, suffer hunger. 

By the way, if, if you're looking for a way to jumpstart and get into things. Proverbs is a great way to start reading because it's not the heaviest of things and there's some definitely wisdom in there vinegar honey, not really in there. But people like to always say it like it is in the Bible, it's not sorry. Uh But the go go read some Proverbs, go read Proverbs 19. Start with that anyways uh being negative towards a person will, you know, like publicly criticizing them, sending negative comments their way, whatever will harden their heart greatly and easily and directly and it'll force them to not back down from their position. And in this case, them, I'm saying, Mike Lindell. Yeah, Mike Lindell. That one, the one that sells you pillows and slippers and dog beds and towels and whatever else it can make out of foam and cotton. And I have to say as a person who had bought one of his pillows in the past, uh, the original my pillow pillow. It is chunky and squarish to lay on at first. It is annoying. It takes time before you can compact down that foam. So it's not so pointy and I understand I have a bigger head than most. So mine compacted down real easily. 

Some of you guys with smaller heads and won't be as comfortable as quickly. But he has a lot to that. People can be um negative on him about uh from the election stuff to everything else going on. And like I said, I, 100% disagree with what he's doing. He definitely has the right to do it. I think legally, yes, he does have the right. But at the same time, he is someone who is professing to be a Christian. 

He is someone who is professing the faith to be a brother in Christ with everyone and in all honesty. And I hope he uh attends a weekly service. I don't know if he does or not. Ok. Uh If he does, I hope he does, you know, someone, you know, the, the leadership there at the church probably should have a conversation with him, but that needs to be a private thing. 

Not a thing where they go, oh, we have a conversation with Lindell and we're going to publicize it and put it on the news to shame him and all this other stuff. We all make mistakes and we all do foolish things and we all do things that need correcting. Yeah, he just happens to do it very publicly on the internet. Um Either through the depositions that they release, you know, where he's cussing up a storm and doing all this stuff or his my pillow commercials or his Lindell TV stuff or all this other stuff. Ok. And as I said, just sending him criticism and negativity thou harden him up, you'll force him to not back down from his position and he'll entrench him in himself in an US versus them situation saying that they're always come at him for what he says and that, that must mean he's on the right side of things. 

That's how people think. Unfortunately. So, yeah, that Lindell, right. So, like I said, he has the right to say what he wants as much as we may disagree with it. However, where it does start to get problematic where it does start to get, um I guess is not, not so much. Uh The speech is maybe the action. So we have the elections coming up 2024. And with Lindell, I always have to kind of keep an eye on what is he doing because he, he's still on the 2020 election was stolen. Thing. I'm not disagreeing that there were inconsistencies with the vote. 

What I disagree with is his assertion on how the election was manipulated. We already know through articles that the election was fortified. Um They freely admit that it was fortified and for you audio listeners fortified is in quote. Um They, they freely admit that they fortified the election uh to fit their needs essentially. Now he's going on about how the votes were changed and all this sort of stuff. 

Um, he hasn't shown any proof, any evidence and I'm a guy who needs data. I need to see the facts. I need to see proof of things. I would make a horrible disciple back in jesus' time because I'd be like, I would be like, Thomas, I'd be like, I, I need to see and feel the hole in your hand and I get it. 

Some people go well, that's OK. I, but I also know I would probably be very hard on that one. I'm just admitting my faults and my flaws on that. Ok. Anyways. So, so we have the election coming up and Lindell goes, oh, I have the way to save our election in 2024 1 though, proved beyond a shadow of a doubt about the cheating of the elections with voting machines. So, what is the solution? Is it poll workers? No. Is it a way to hash the votes and, you know, line them up with I DS? No. Is it a way to have paper boats, you know, be a backup of electronics and then we have to match them up somehow to make sure that there's fidelity. No. What is it? No, it's a W MD. And the moment I heard that I go, I, I went, www, what, um, for those of you older who lived through 2000, 1 time frame, you know, so my age or older? 

Wow, that's, wow, I'm old. Anyways. For, for those of you hear of W MD, you may immediately think of something you think of weapon of mass destruction. That's not what Lindell thought. Although the first time I heard I was like, where is he going to bomb? Why sad part is I didn't even cross my head that it wasn't a bomb that he was talking about. Um W MD in his part is a wireless monitoring device, a wifi sniffer. And that's not gonna, just a real quick note that's not gonna be the solution, not at all. 

It's dead on arrival. And here's why, I mean, mean that and, and I say it's a stunt more than I think network sniffers have been around for years. Ok. That's the first thing. 

Secondly, if you're not the part of the network, if you're not on the network itself, so if you don't have the Wi Fi code, if you're not part joined to the Wi Fi, you're not seeing anything else other than the fact that devices decide to broadcast, that has a Wi Fi network card and that the Wi Fi network card is on, this does nothing for wired networks. If they run cable to those voting machines, you'll see no than others. Finally, according to his own documentation on his own website, this device does not collect any data other than the device's name on Wi Fi. That's it. Fuck's nothing else. No data packets, no connection status, just device his name on Wi Fi. 

Oh, and it only has a range of 200 ft while this may seem like a lot. You have to understand things Wi Fi signals, the higher frequency one. So like your five G Wi Fi and your Wi Fi six and soon to be Wi Fi seven, the higher your Wi Fi signal uh the the higher the frequent say the signal, the easier it is for it to be blocked by material, especially like thick wood or cement in my apartment. We're not talking thick walls here from one end of the apartment to the other. The Wi Fi six signal is drastically cut. My router is in the living room, one wall through to my bedroom that Wi Fi six signal is cut almost in half, go into another room like my bedroom or excuse me, not my bedroom, my bathroom, it's cut down almost another half. 

That's not that far. My bed, my apartment's not that big. So if they're using something like Wi Fi five G or which is not the same as cellular five G, so don't get all in panic or if they're using something like Wi Fi six, they might not even get that 200 ft of range they're talking about. Secondly, it's attached to a drone, you know what that means? It has to fly, you know what that means? 

You need a licensed drone operator that can see the device at all times as well as permission from the private property owner to fly the drone above the place. And Linda was like, oh, we're gonna fly this over all the pulling places. He's not gonna do anything. And here's another why even if you got all the drone operators in the world to fly, you got all the permissions, right? That device is gonna fly up and it's just scanning for names. Cool. You know what I can do with my phone, I could change my phone's name, have broadcast a wi Fi signal. 

I'm giving him false data. If I can figure out what the name of uh one of these, let's say voting machines is change my name on it. All of a sudden he's getting false alerts and false data. You know what I then do like to take it up a level if I really want to do this and it'd be easy to do. Get a Arduino Box, a little computer or a pie computer and then program that to just sit there and change names every few minutes on all the wire and give it multiple wireless cards, poisons the data makes it unusable. 

Again, it, it, it's not collecting much more than the device's name on Wi Fi. And this is directly from his documentation. What it doesn't do does not have the capability to interfere with any network functionality. Does not have the capability to, to view or record, inspect, alter or destroy any actual data being transmitted or received. Does not have the capability to view or record save or publish any login credentials or security information. Has none of those capabilities, which basically means it could determine what is its Wi Fi name. And is that wi fi device on or off? And like I said, why I think this is all just a show? 

It's a farce as much as I think he's deceiving people to donate to his legal funds, as much as I don't like it. I will stand for his right to do it legally again. Like I said, this is the question where I have to ask myself in fact, that claims to represent Christ and he is doing all this lying, doing all this swearing. And honestly, if I'm being honest, this worshiping of Trump with his mouth and his actions, um I've spent, I spend a lot of time with my mother on Wednesdays and other days with stuff and she's always watching Lindell TV. So, oh yeah, that's a little crazy on there. But regardless, like I said, all that, you know, should be taken up directly with him as a fellow brother, you know, and taken up with his local congregation that he attends. Hopefully. So, what did Lindell the protest, the podcast all? What did that all have to do? But thanks, here's what it boils down to. 

Ultimately, we're going to find people that we disagree with, uh politically, ethically, morally. We're gonna find people who say that they are a fellow brother or sister in Christ and they have completely different interpretations of the gospel of what the Bible says about Christ. Some that are maybe just mistakes or some that are deliberately just bad. What do you do in those situations? Do you just shut the other person out? Do you just ignore them? Do you send them so many negative comments that they decide that the best thing in the world is for them to take their own life? I hope not. That last one, that one's a whole other conversation. What do you do? And especially uh if, if we call ourselves Christians, what do we do? 

Oh, just love them. What does that look like? We're to have compassion and grace with people, but we're also to speak truth. And I've been finding it an interesting balance on how to speak truth to a person at the same time, how to have that conversation, be loving where they're not leaving that conversation even though we disagree or they're not leaving that conversation feeling like a worthless piece of trash because all so often in our world. I, I in, in our daily interactions, what do we see? 

We see people yelling and screaming over each other to the point where the other person just has to eventually throw up their hands and say I give up. And it's tempting to do that because then it makes you feel like you were heard like you were right like you won and then you take a step back and you look at it and go, yeah, I won. I was heard but Christ was completely ignored and silent that whole time because I was so focused on doing what I wanted. I was so focused on being correct. I was so focused on having my views presented. 

I forgot the most important thing that Christ be a part of the conversation that Christ be part of the difference there and that we can leave the conversation but not, maybe not agree while still on polar opposite sides of things. But having Christ represented shown to the other person and that they leave feeling like they were loved still, even though you, they know you two disagree. I have this all the time with various family members that I disagree with 100% on various topics, whether it be transgenderism, gay marriage, abortion, all those which, which are pretty heavy topics. Those are not like light topics that you sit around and have a look at a little salad and go. Hm. Yes. Abortion. Let's have this little discussion over some tea and salad. 

Those can be very emotional, very hard and harsh, deep conversations. But the thing that I'm learning as I'm going through this as I have these conversations no more and don't get me wrong. I have had over the course of my lifetime, some missteps. I've done things wrong. I'm in by no means perfect on these conversations. I'm still learning. I'm still growing what I have learned through it all is that if I let Christ be known and I don't go well, I think instead if I go know what the Bible says. 

Yeah, first they may be put off like, oh, you, you refer to the Bible, you did, you defer to that. But eventually what theyre gonna hear is not so much, but I think on something but what God says on that topic and that right there is the most important thing of all that they don't care, they don't hear, they don't know necessarily. But my opinion is, my opinion could be a multitude of things, but they know what the word of God says about that topic and you don't just go and you know. Yeah, ok. If you're talking with another person who, you know, claims to be a Christian, yeah, you can just pull out the Bible and read those, those passages, those verses. But during that conversation, you have to find a way to make it applicable to them. And that's always gonna depend on the other person in that, in that relationship that you have with them. 

That's not a simple, I wish it was a simple, you know, A and B formula. Do A then B, then C, then D and you're good to go. It, it's always gonna be different things to remember. 

Are do it with love, do it with compassion, do it from God's word is in those conversations, no matter how hard and awkward they could be. And oh man, they will be awkward and hard at times. No matter how hard and awkward they are, they always end up being good, they always end up being glorified God in the end. Even if you to leave a completely separate thoughts on it, your goal in life isn't a convert everyone over to your way of thinking necessarily, you may be the person that just plants the seed. And that's true for conversations like this. That's true for, you know, planting to see the gospel as well. 

That is why, you know all this. That is why we even me and Aaron back in the day 2019. Crazy to say back in the day, I had a lot less gray in the beard. That's why we started to use your words maybe as much as we could engage in those conversations. Yeah, we failed. We've had some success along the way. 

We failed at some of those conversations. One of the reviews I wear most proudly was way back early on. We did a uh a conversation around transgender athletes, right? And we pulled out scientific data like, hey, look, OK, you know, you know, in men this and women this and then this, you know, we pulled out the actual physical or not physical, we we brought out actual facts from data from science and someone's like, oh, this seemed like a good idea, but you obviously are bigoted, blah, blah blah. And I'm like, OK, you obviously didn't, you know, and this is a review. So I didn't have the ability to respond. 

I was like, so you obviously at least listened. Uh the the part that they were upset about was the facts. They weren't upset about, you know, us saying, hey, we disagree with this but still love that transgender person in your life. They weren't upset about that. They were upset about whoa about the, the, the the the data. So I think we handled that well. Can we do better? 

Oh, always, always, we can do better and we learn and I think we will continue to learn and I think this will be continue. I think this will continue to be a important muscle to be able to flex as life goes on because we're not gonna be seeing it get any simpler any time soon with these conversations we're having both in public and in private. And when you work for a company that basically says anyone could report any of your speech. You know, you sometimes kind of pull back and censor yourself at times. And I lie, I, I won't lie. I, I've, I've caught myself doing that. 

I've had to say recently, words have, and this was reinforced, uh, this past of his message, words have the power to heal or to hurt words have the power of life and death. Those conversations I skip out on because I'm afraid that they might report me to my company's hr because they didn't like my opinion. Ok, let's do it because ultimately, I know two things. One, I'm not going around and, and tell them like they're a piece of crap or anything like that. I'm not telling them they're horrible. I'm not, you know, I, I'm not disparaging them. 

They may not like it when they hear, hey, when they hear that, you know, hey, the Bible says this about this topic. Thats all. So let's see what this brings up. Let's see where speech takes off legally in America in the next year or so, as well as let's see what happens when we as Christians, stop censoring ourselves because we're afraid of what may happen and start relying on the fact that God has things in control and the number one priority we have in our lives. The number one person, we owe allegiance to the number one person that we speak for and speak up for is God. And I have a feeling, things they changed just a little how I'm not sure. I guess we're going to see you over the next few years. Well, this turned out to be a little bit longer episode than I originally planned for, but that's all right. So thank you for joining me on this week's episode of Use your words and hopefully next week it will be both me and Aaron. So it's not just me monologuing into a camera. Catch you later. Bye.