Year Five - Episode 1 Pt 2

All right. Yeah. So, yeah, In the past five years, we've also had the wonderfulness that's called the pandemic. Who was that? twenty twenty Mostly. See, when you're not confined to a a basement, when i'm not confined to a what basement? I wasn't You know what it is? I was essential. 

I I laugh and I joke that aaron 's going to be the only guy in the future will be sentenced when he gets his wife angry to sleep in a bed, not on the couch. you're not wrong. I know. Darn right you're done. Messed up. Honey, you have to sleep in bed with me tonight. Oh, darn. No. I was told i'll get like a a dog house outside in the backyard. 

Who told you that? Somebody. Her. The girl? Yeah, bro, i'm going to say this. You capitalize off that, man. You capitalize off that. Yes, absolutely capitalize off that. 

Wait, what? i'm going to show you i'm not getting a dog. No, you're going to get a dog House. I know what you're saying. Were you yourself? i'll enjoy it. Yes. Well, I guess she didn't say dog house. But we're more like a shed. But we're a shed. You can. Yeah, you can. A shed would be even better. 

I I I would not argue with that. If she said go sleep in the shed, i'm like, she's going to put you out there. But there'll be no couch out there. 

Oh no, there'll only be a mattress. Dang, i'll be OK One that folds down too. No one that he has to pull from the rafters and put on the workbench. 

it'll be her she shed during the day she shed and her and his sleeping when he gets her upset. So it's like one of those super thin or all out mattresses and all and all ten kids will have to sleep with him that night too. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You just don't put any heat, any air conditioning, any electricity out there. And she mocks it from the outside. I don't like you, OK I mean, I mean, why Mexicans were used to that sort of stuff. So go far. i'm not. 

she's going to teach you to be Mexican. Dang it. Gosh. And Hera was like, yes, yes, yes. 

i'm going to be good from now on. Good. Hopefully i'll be stupid from time to time. I believe it. Yeah, you will. Right. No. No disrespect against you, mister Johnson. In the past five years i've known you. 

I will say this. You have gone. I can't believe i'm saying these this phrase. He has his moments. he's getting a little bit wiser, and as soon as he puts that ring on, i'm just gonna fly. Oh, yeah, yeah, i'm sure. I mean, it's already flying there. Shoot. Oh, that's just you getting older. Well, yeah, right. Which I never want to hear from you again. That That i'm old. Yeah, that's just old. that's just never mind. 

What? The monkey ass Monkey hands. i'm keeping my tongue in my mouth. Wow. The Chaos monkey is being quiet. Boom. My hands old. 

What? Oh, OK But yeah, So over the past five years, we've had COVID kind of ravage coming in to the world. Yeah. But overall, you know how the world has changed over the past five years? Oh, for the worst. For the worst. It depends what you look at. If you look at like, news, the government. Yeah, For the worst. 

But I mean, countries, society, Yeah. But just in general things like for example twenty twenty three versus twenty nineteen and or twenty twenty Visits to the doctor's office? Yeah. Are down forty two percent I bet they would be. But a lot of them are moving to telemedicine. 

So online visits, Oh, your mom would be good with that. there's an increase. Wait, what? 

I was waiting for a response. I looked over at him like, wow, who's mom would be good with that? My mom? 

No, she doesn't know how to use a computer or a phone. Why are you so scratching the TV though? Oh well, there's no camera on the TV Sir. Wait, what? Telemedicine requires a camera? Oh, I understood it as just medical stuff on TV And then you just No, that's like an online visit with the doctor telemedicine. 

Think of it as like telephone medicine. that's what's kind of short for which I honestly, I I I don't I don't quite get. What is this? Non in person. Hi, Aaron. How are you feeling today? I feel pain. You feel pain. Where do you feel pain? And on a scale, one to ten can you give me a face? 

OK It looks like we're talking about a four. i'm going to write you a prescription for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's here. it's here. Oh, here and here. Oh, my goodness. All right. i'm going to have to give you a, the hardcore prescription here. All right. 

Have you, have you done telmos and Josh, I have not. OK what's going on? As I was saying, what's going on? No, that's not how it works. Like anything beyond like a cold in that you actually, they actually send you in referral to the actual main doctor. So what's the point then? it's like you have a cold or you have a flu or something chronic that you've been diagnosed with before that's in your medical record, you just do that. So instead of going into document being like hey doc, I got my seasonal allergies. Can you write me my prescription for my, you know, my allergy medication? So it's pretty much a pre diagnosis to where they can, yeah, flex your current kind of thing, prior, whatever you call it kind of thing. Is it more like a triage? You know, they're kind of triaging you? Do you really need to see a doctor or do you or are you going to be fine, just go eat some chicken noodle soup and drink some water and you'll be OK And how much are you paying for that depends on your insurance. Like my insurance includes like ten visits for free a year, ten visits and how many in person visits then it's just follows the normal deduction schedule sort of deal. 

They don't have a free check up every year. I not a hundred percent sure on the new insurance i have to look because i know a lot of insurance companies will do like a free check up on that they'll do that so so yeah it's not that they typically do not prescribe like medicine over the phone over those telemedicine visits it's more like it's more like that triage well maybe when they have something that can like register vitals remotely. Because you have like the new blood pressure mantra cuffs and that they can connect through your phone via Bluetooth. Yes. So as soon as they can start doing that, then maybe they might start doing a little bit more. Or when Disease X hits. Yeah, exactly. Disease X that'll be in the next five years, we'll be talking about back on disease X and how it may actually be within the next year, how it made COVID look tame. Yep. 

But yeah, I mean, so for example. OK me, I used telemedicine and it was actually during COVID time because I had this what I thought was a urinary tract infection. They and they they're like, OK we can't they're like we're going to basically send you to the lab and you're going to go get your blood work and then based on that then we'll go to the next step, you know. But it wasn't just OK we're going to give you a prescription, blah, blah, blah. It was. They made me go in and do stuff to do things. Turns out it wasn't your urinary tract infection. That was a whole lot worse, actually. I ended up with a prostate infection. Which is, oh, yeah, that was thirty days of intensive antibiotics. I was like, how the heck did I get that? they're like, some people just get it randomly. 

it's like, well, that's annoying. And that sucks. Yeah. 

And I was like, have you gotten the finger yet? Yes. I know what you mean. When did you start getting the finger? Well, OK So the first time, the prostate exam is what he's saying. 

So the first time, like, I was sick with something and they were trying to diagnose and they're like, well, they just went ahead and did a check. Yeah. And that was at, like, twenty four twenty four years old. Yeah. Like, I like you had your first one at twenty four Like, like I said, I was sick. They were trying to figure out what was up with me. And so they're doing all these tests, and when the test was and I was like, why that is a weird test to do for whatever. 

So that was. And then the the basically this last year was the first, like, normal, actual normal. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's fun of getting older. 

Yay, I got a red ring on my finger. Hurts, but. But why do you have a red ring on your. I don't know. 

Five years ago, did you have, oh, ringworm. Five years ago. Did you have a red ring on your finger? Well, it's not completely round. What are you? Never mind. No, i'm not saying. i'm not saying the reason why you said that was caught. What dirty dog. I just asked him five years ago, did he have a red ring on his finger? it's like, it's not. it's just like, right here. So it's not completely around. it's just poop. Interesting. 

The joys of getting old. And Aaron, let me tell you what you have for what you get to look forward to joint pain. I already got it. You get to look forward to joint pain as you get older. You get to look forward to just being tired for no reason, randomly. Oh, I got that. You get to look forward to. Well, at least for me at forty My first wonderful colonoscopy. Yeah. Yay. that'll be fun. Yeah, not so much. 

Yeah. Gosh, are you going to have to get one early as well or do I, I think or like, do your parents have issues where that was flagged where you would have to get one early otherwise? The normal age is fifty I think I have to have it at forty OK Because mom had a can. Scare, kiss, scare with cancer. Gotcha. Then yeah, you'd you'd have yours at forty you'll have to get yours at forty And Josh will probably have to get it like thirty Yeah. 

Two years, baby. Yeah. I mean, i'll do it with you. Not like. No, I know what you mean. you'll go in to both get colonoscopies at the same time. Yeah. We can go in together. We could. We could. let's just not. let's just let's just not play. 

We could you you both. You both would be, so we could be under drugs next door like. Like they could do have like the sheet, like in front dividing us, but then like under the curtain we could like hold hands. You both would be so underdogs and because they 'd put you out Yeah, that's enough Wait our lockheed show up, and we'd be touching like, holding hands i want to say cheek to cheek we should be right next to each other all right you know you know they don't release into fart right huh yeah i didn't know that i didn't yeah they you have to fart for them no they'll let me go i was technically supposed to poop when i had my hernia done when i didn't poop yeah they're a little they're a little more strict on like that like they make you like i had to wait for a while and then like when i had to take my mom same thing just give me some i had to wait i mean some apple some eggs that morning but at that point your stomach 's empty 'cause you couldn't eat that day well at least twenty four hours previous to that well after after it's done just give me some food no you're waking up like from anesthesia yeah just give me food right away they're not your favorite thing they're not going to give me food or anything until. 

You can't go get food until you farted for them. They always gave me food after my surgeries. Yeah, well, you're special. Yeah. 

But yeah. So in the five years that we've been around trips, the doctors have gone down because telemedicine has been going up. OK I don't agree with it. You don't agree with it? Why not? 

I mean, that's less. Is it? I don't know. Go ahead. 

I don't even necessarily agree with. i've sort of had more of a sour experience with the doctor's office. Yeah, that's that's kind of been true for a lot of people recently. But go on. 

they're in and out in fifteen minutes or less, and they don't do it because that's how fast they want to run it. that's how fast they're told to run it. Otherwise you'll lose your job. 

When doctors go longer than the specified a time that they're allowed to be in there, they usually. Get yelled at or strikes or whatnot. Because it's the longer they take, the less money the hospital can rake in that that goes down a whole another rabbit hole too, on, you know, this and that. 

At the end of the day, the hospital is a very good example of government spending, right? The costs are outrageous. Insurance is outrageous, right, for what they're doing. 

But then it's all private. there's no public and even the public is controlled by the private. that's where a lot of people have an issue going and passed with the previous president because he bent over for for the medical industry just so that he could push a simple, what I call it, smear agenda, right, just to make it look good to the American people. And healthcare for all is more expensive. it's more expensive to be on healthcare for all, whatever it's called nowadays, than it is to be on a. Company paid healthcare program. 

Well, OK to be fair, you know the companies typically pay about eighty percent of that bill, correct. But the fact that somebody else is willing to pay it to get it down for you, yeah, that's part of the benefits to get you to stay at said company. True. But they're still paying it and it's cheaper than if the government doesn't So it makes you wonder, how much is the government paying? 

I, for example, and I used to work at Northwestern, right? If you take a look at what the actual bill is, I don't think I could have gotten individual insurance taken into account what Northwestern was paying, right? If I was to pay that hundred percent out of pocket, what Northwestern was paying, I don't think I could have gotten cheaper on the public market. 

If you did out of pocket. Yeah. Like if I if I said no, Northwestern, i'm not going to take your insurance, including the amount that you're paying for me every month. Yep. And I said i'm going to instead buy my own. Yep. 

I don't think I could have gotten it cheaper than public. Yeah, if you had to pay for the whole thing. Yeah, like so. 

And again, it brings up the question as to how much is the public sector paying for it in the private sector? Because you hear that, you hear that gimmick all the time. You hear that gimmick all the time. And we're and we're seeing it now as we're going down this, you know the birth route, right, will tell you that oh because this is your provider, this is what we're going to charge you. 

But then they also show you online, oh you don't have anybody. This is what we'll charge you. But at the end of the day the when you have your insurance right your your provider and he gets tagged to that bill, they're like, so for example, your insurance is saving you two hundred and fifty dollars So your bills, you know three hundred dollars right? Right. But then if you didn't have insurance, your bill 's like three hundred and thirty three that's what happened with me when i went to the ER for my leg so they sit there and they paint the savior aspect with your insurance companies to make it look like what they're saving but if you didn't have insurance at all you're paying if not the same maybe a. little bit more yeah so you're saying with your leg yeah i think i got like forty percent off the total cost of what the bill would have been going out of pocket versus going through insurance so if you can pay cash yeah they're they're usually cheaper prices because once you bring insurance in it's a negotiated price between that hospital chain and that insurance company but to your point did you look up the actual true out of pocket or was that before they made that that's true that's true because that's a recent law that is true all right where hospitals have to put online what the cost of the process is the procedure is oh yeah out of pocket how how long ago was that that was when andy told me to go to the hospital because he thought i might have a blood law OK that that was before that was before this winter effect yeah so now what they have is and different hospitals are called different things and stuff but like for ascension it's a it's a healthcare tool, so you get all these different codes and stuff for the different procedures or different whatever you want to call it. 

You can take that. You can punch it in, say no name provider kind of deal and they'll tell you the estimated out of pocket. And at the end of the day, it's a little bit more, but it's not remotely close to what you supposedly would have paid if you didn't have an insurance provider. I mean, a bill that cost us seven hundred dollars was going to be thirteen hundred dollars if my insurance company wasn't my insurance company, but then if I actually paid it out of pocket myself, according to the estimator, it's two hundred dollars more. So they overinflated the savings by three hundred some odd bucks. 

Well, not to mention that I actually at least seventy five percent hospital bills, especially relating towards birth. Are wrong. they're overcharging you by hundreds and most people don't fight it because they don't know they have these fancy names like tissue. A piece of tissue has a fancy name for it. I can't remember what it is, but so they charge you for all the stuff where there's been cases to where they've had a a boy born, but they're they get charged at this as if it was a girl. there's different things that do that they do after post birth if it's a a female versus a male. So Aaron, these are all things to consider when you have your ten kids, keep this mind. Look at your bill for all ten of those kids going forward. i'm going to talk to my sister and some other friends and at the end of the day, there's a huge lack of accountability in the medical industry and that's because they have no competition. 

They have nothing that is jeopardizing their ability to make money outside of each other. But at the end of the day, I mean, it's kind of like the statement I told you. If I look at you and you look at me and we both know that the only way to make money is to keep up charging. And destroying the competition. 

that's what we're going to do. So. So why are you going to talk to your sister and and your friends? i'll just get some advice from them. I don't know. Like I said, just look at, just do it at home. Look at. Oh, boy, you're going to do the shop, the swimming pool method, huh? Like, yeah, OK Shopping around actually doesn't really work. No, i'm not shopping around. Yeah, because a lot of them are now merging into one little one, one thing, so or they're monopolizing whole quarters of states. that's the other thing I don't get is you really don't have options. And at the end of the day when you do have options, they're so closely price related, it doesn't matter where you go. And most of the time people get bent over through emergency visits, OK I mean, if, like your motorcycle accident, are you going to sit there, price check and then drive all the way to Milwaukee? 

Nope. Exactly. I mean, I didn't even have a choice at the time. Yeah, one to call an ambulance. that's pretty much how you get. that's it. All right. So other things that have changed in the past five years outside of, I mean, the Chaos Monkey has stayed the same. Yes. The Chaos Rant Monkey. Yeah, the rise of Bleezer. 

What Leisure. what's leisure? This is something I participated in even before the pandemic, where when you go on a work trip, you then extend it, and then that way, you know, like for example, Seattle for josh 's birthday. That one time leisure. I was flown out there on the company dime business for a business trip and then I extended it for my own pleasure and then flew back on the company dime. that's nice. 

So that they say that's that's up to about, oh, seventy six percent of all business travel. Wow, good for them. People are doing that. Good for them. Yeah. I was like, woo Hoo. But during the same time, you know, that was a good thing. They said that because of the pandemic, we all expected this. Nearly half of students started the twenty twenty two twenty twenty three school year behind their grade level in at least one academic subject. That brings on another range. 

According to the National Center for Education Statistics, average math scores dropped five points in fourth grade, eighth points in eighth grade, and that was in twenty twenty two Similarly, the average. Yep. Similarly, the average reading score fell three points in both grade levels from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two The scary part is that's average. So there are certain sectors that are increasing and there are certain sectors that are plummeting. Yep. You know what else has changed? And you know, I, I don't know what schools you went to, Josh, but like when I went to school, I had to take like the ACT score and that don't start, OK And you know that they had to do SAT 's and all that. So because of the pandemic, they suspended all that. And a lot of schools have continued either expanding that suspension until twenty twenty five and some have made it indefinite for the extension. 

The SA law schools, all schools, all schools, S A T S A C T S they're basically optional. Now for a lot of schools, that's really including stuff like a Columbia University in New York, Real we're going to be real stupid. Yep, we're going to be stupid and we're going to be fat. Takeout has increased by forty percent You know it's crazy. You know it's crazy. Fast food was convenient, right? Because it was fast. But it was also affordable for the most part, right? it's not anymore not affordable. 

You are now. Before, what you were paying for was the convenience of speed. Now you are paying for the convenience of convenience. Not having to go in somewhere, not having to sit down. You can do a remote order on your phone. it's on your way home. You literally pull into mcdonald's sit there for three minutes, you get your food. Yeah, go home. Not even that, I mean. Regardless, if you order on like the app ahead of time or, you know, in the line, you're going to wait some, but the cost is still going to be the same, basically, and it's gotten way more expensive for it. I said, i'm pretty sure, like the, well, like doordashes and stuff, 'cause i'm sure that's a lot bigger now than it ever has been. Oh yeah, and you're paying more for taking more than that. Yeah, than you would be getting it yourself. I mean now you can go to to wendy's or chick fil if you got nowhere to be you may as well go to a sit down restaurant to get the same amount of food if not more right and mcdonald's of like even their basic like think like their big mac right that has gone up in price they said sausage egg burritos used to be a dollar a piece yep four fifty six for two sausage egg burritos now we used to be able to feed everybody at the hangar for breakfast on our crunch Saturday. 

Now nobody even thinks about it because it's going to cost us darn near a hundred bucks yep Yeah, this was an article from last year so twenty twenty three in april of twenty twenty three and they said just like for example mcchicken itself since twenty nineteen the price for mcchicken has gone up twenty eight percent why that's why they don't even have like a dollar menu anymore yeah they got rid of that and. the quality hasn't changed i'll tell you that it's kind of getting worse yeah i actually had actually mcchicken for lunch today because i had to take care of some other stuff and how was that it was regretful hard regretful yeah yeah like chickens used to be it's OK and so they used to be a dollar right yeah they're now a dollar eighty nine so that's more than that twenty four percent increase that they were or twenty eight percent increase it was darn near a hundred yeah so and that's not even that's not even actually calculating i i was doing some looking at stuff and The amount of so when you incorporate, excuse me, so when you incorporate the increase in technology usage, the different processes put in place manufacturing wise, the regulations that have to be complied with if the end product incorporates technology or not. Inflation is not the biggest contributing factor to price increase, it's everything else. 

Like for example if you were to compare a one a sesame one seventy two just this is averaging here if you compare a small aircraft general aircraft back in nineteen sixty right the inflated value of what it would have been back then to today brand new would be a hundred thousand dollars but because of regulations because of the technology as i was saying and they're not only used to make the product has increased but the technology that is sent out with the product in its final delivery state. The inflated value is ninety thousand dollars the end market price right now is four hundred and fifty thousand dollars three hundred thousand dollars on top of that is all the other stuff and aviation significant to this the added sales insurance right the initial warranty aspect like that but you're not paying inflated value anymore well i mean speaking of inflation let's see if either of you two know this if you had a dollar in twenty nineteen right yep due to inflation you know how much would you have to spend to get that same dollars worth of stuff in you know now compared to twenty nineteen like if you had the same product right let's say that product started at a dollar outside of the mcchicken you know just due to inflation right what would that price take of that of that object be of a dollar yep so and it was a dollar in twenty nineteen what would that price be now in twenty twenty four Take out all the regulation stuff just based on inflation alone, a dollar thirty nine OK aaron i'm ding i'm a lot higher than you go for. It probably shouldn't be. 

I also like the number two four three two forty three two forty three Oh geez. Wow. i'm that's why i'm I don't want mine. it's going to be one sixty isn't it? i'm glad i'm not in either of yours. Inflationary areas, yes, inflation. 's bad But it'd be a dollar twenty OK just just based on inflation. But there's other things that have gone on during this time besides inflation we've had rises in minimum wages we've had all that fun stuff go on so you know all that contributes to right the rise and stuff but the inflation that hasn't been helping us and i think i think the other interesting thing too is. 

When you look at the the, the big picture, right? And there are some companies that were caught, you know, when they started handing out the COVID checks, right? And then people started having some extra spending money. The idea behind that was to put the money back into the economy, to keep the economy going. That was they didn't want people hanging onto it, right? 

Companies caught on to it, of course. And they're like, oh, hey, you know, everybody 's got a thousand dollars more right and you're able to statistically plan it out that you could you can break like like coffee like you can the amount of the amount of money that americans spend on coffee right you can calculate it out and figure well if everybody 's got just this little bit extra spending money because they get this thousand dollar check we can increase our prices tax amount and so more and more companies. some companies had to do it because in all honesty the logistics was getting screwed up like no tomorrow and it was changing the way that they could charge some companies honestly had a reason for price increase right to stay afloat some companies They just piggybacked off. I have what everybody else was doing because people were willing to pay for it because they had money. They did not work for it now, right? And then you just snowballs and yeah, yeah, but yeah, we're not going to go too deep into that right now because that could go into a whole other Chaos Monkey level. 

And let's not go to Chaos Monkey. We we already did the big Chaos monkey at the start. let's not go back to the lot of Chaos monkeys. Yeah, a lot of that will be used later on in private conversations, not in public. For Aaron, 's sake and for everyone else 's sake i'm going to hate myself again aaron you need to learn not to give us All right, all right talk anymore from twenty nineteen to now back then fifty three million people relied or i'm sorry i just gave away the data all right so now fifty three million people rely on Food Bank? 

Yeah, back before the pandemic started, fifty three? fifty three million. now in the US rely on food banks you know how many people that. is right how it's a lot of people it's fifty three million people that's about one in one in every eight people right that's about one in six we're according to this it says one in six one in six people yep pre pandemic that means you're paying for one in six people to eat pre pandemic how many people relied on one in three give me the million twenty five aaron twenty seven five forty oh OK oh wow so increase that's not that much thirteen million that's still a that's a lot of people yeah food relief organizations are concerned that the growth in food insecurity is going to continue oh yeah even to this day due to rising prices in that I think there's other factors into that button. 

Oh yeah, there are. Monthly visits to theaters and music venues are down by twenty five percent since before pandemic to now. Makes sense. Yeah, that sucks. Yep, inflation adjusted. Personal consumer expenditure increased by seven percent from February of twenty twenty to over fourteen This is a of February twenty twenty three or January twenty twenty three to over fourteen trillion. 

dollars Retail sales in particular have increased by thirty percent between the fourth quarter of twenty nineteen and the end of twenty twenty two OA big sharp increase in spending at the stores, what would you guess? At the start of twenty twenty three was the percent of E commerce sales at all retail stores. we're not talking like Amazon, we're talking like retail stores like a Best Buy. 

let's say about forty percent Aaron, forty one percent Josh is the closest staying at thirty nine percent at fourteen point seven percent way lower than I thought it. it's still way lower. But previous to the pandemic we were just above ten percent So it's been, you know, obviously during the pandemic it rose exponentially, but now it's been coming down, but now it's starting to stay stabilize and go up again. 

Home improvement is out and self care is in. People flock to home improvement in electronic stores early in the pandemic. However, they've indicated that monthly visits are about twenty percent higher in in beauty and spa stores in twenty twenty three compared to twenty twenty and the home improvement have been going down. 

So yeah, there's been things happening in real world in the past five years that's just kind of look at it at scale. Now that we have data to look at and go, wow, it's a shift, mate. Yeah. 

Next we'll have to have the trends on how many kid, how many kids each person 's having, and just see and kind of spike it because that's a whole other thing. US is at that point now where I think we're below the replacement population trend, yeah. Which is ironic, yeah, because like most things, especially socialism cannot prosper if you are not equal or greater than the dying out generation. 

Which is ironic. Yep. Yeah, we're definitely below it. we're at one point six five versus two point two one is what we need so woo hoo all right so it's a lot of. doom and gloom over what's changed in five years mister johnson what has been your favorite thing that's happened over the past five years besides your girlfriend five years yeah that's a long range to think of joshy boy be thinking about that besides your wife. 

I know that's kind of a figure. Give you two the same handicap besides getting married, Joshy boy, it's been your favorite thing over the past five years. mister Johnson, have you thought of something? No. No. I can barely remember what I ate yesterday for lunch. that's what i'm saying. Really. Vaccines have taken a toll, man. 

What was yesterday? Your marriage conference? Oh, I had soup and salad. 

OK how many single guys were at this marriage conference? Maybe one. I don't know. I don't know all the dudes. I just knew one for sure is a single dude. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. you're getting ahead of the game. Oh, yeah, I suppose. 

What? This shouldn't be the first thing that just popped in my mind. Oh, oh, oh, boy. 

can't be any worse than what the Chaos Monkeys introduced. I was just going to say moving a washing machine in the matt 's Bat basement. OK just that trip in general was a lot of fun. that's fair. But there's so much over five years, I don't even remember all of it. OK I can't remember what's happened in five years. How do you not remember what's happened in five years? 

What have I done over five years? it's at this point that if I had a lot of editing ideas, I could take five years of audio and insert random snippets from you. Oh jeez. 

that's a long list, Sir. What have you done over five years? I have to, like, look back to, like photos. What even happened? 

All right, well, Aaron ponder 's here. Josh, do you have any, any Chaos monkey interjections to inject here? Five years of haven't thought of anything, huh? 

I mean, it's hard to lie, I guess. What do you single out? Yeah, that's the question. What do you think? Is just a trick question, right? 

it's not a trick question at all. Well, you're giving it a smirk, so I always give a smirk. This really is not a trick question at all. there's no trick about it. it's different. that's what one would say. If there's a trick. 

he's going through his photos. Yeah, I I figured he was going through his photos when he picked up his phone. I was like, oh, he's actually going through his photos on this. 

i'm at a i'm i'm blanking. you're blanking. OK Interesting. I feel like it's something that I should know interesting. And it doesn't have to necessarily be like a point in, I guess a point like a point in time thing. Like it could be something that you've maybe seen change over the years as well, because there are things that happened over the years that maybe it takes a long time for you to see the outcome of said whatever it is. 

Because there are things that maybe start happening in one month and or a year and finish up in the next. you're hinting at something. No, i'm not actually as stop it, delete that. 

As mischievous as you all think I am. And yes, I am Mexican, so therefore I am mischievous by nature does not mean i'm being mischievous now. that's what a Mexican would say. Yeah, I guess i'm mischievous. Mexican, Yes. 

All Mexicans are mischievous, though. And Aaron? 's just the gringo you find something aaron i see that was that was that was them try and think how to describe it at at josh on aaron 's bayak bayak almost like a music video that we'll be talking about later yeah there's something about every time they touch yeah yeah OK i was born in the wrong decade? 

why were you born in the wrong decade everything 's permanent. Yes it is. Yeah. OK well while you two are kind of meandering and pondering and pausing and give some like super deep earlier moving through your your minds and your memories, trying to remember things that are there and essential for life. Oh geez Louise, he's hing at something. No, i'm not. Because memories are part of your, how you relate to other people. So that's your shared memories, whether they're you know, with a group or just one. on one whatever that? they're important that's how you have that like shared common history that's how you have community and if you're like he's trying to get at something no i'm literally going off by the seat of my pants at this one so don't think i'd like have something pre staged in the back of my mind all right paul why don't you why don't you answer yeah i'll answer how about that In the past five years. 

So obviously if I that takes twenty eighteen out of the equation. So that takes back me back to twenty nineteen because that as far back as I know five years. that's the rules of the game, right? 

For me, I think probably the most impactful. I don't know. Sorry doesn't involve either of you two So sorry. 

Why? it's a sigh of relief. Just kidding. 

Wow, 'cause then I would feel really bad if I didn't include you in mine. that's why. Oh wow. What did you have in mind? I was like, what kind of heartless person do you think I am? Just kidding. i'm pretty bad. 

Nope, i'm not answering because, yeah, I don't I don't think you're heartless, Sir. I don't think you're heartless. So don't worry about that, OK Over the past five years, yeah. And when you look at it from the when you try to like delve into every low memory it, it's hard to look at everything be like which one of these is most impactful And this is going to sound weird and and this kind of will lead into I guess in a way our next episode that we're talking about some other stuff and it's it's weird, OK My answer is going to be weird. I get it. Just roll with me here. Rolling. i'm rolling twenty twenty one a day that everyone knows because it's in everyone 's memory in the US at least for one reason or another joshy here is looking at is looking kind of surprised here or smug I should say why are you looking smug it's one location in the US am i correct? 

Yes. Yeah. it's a specific date that happened pretty early on in the year. Oh, it has that has been a crucial talking point. Yep, for now. At this case, four years. Yes. So the reason why I say in this, like I said, sounds weird. I say it's my favorite thing, right? And it wasn't because of what occurred On this date. And the date i'm talking about is January sixth But twenty twenty one no he said it OK it's not because of what happened i'm not like i'm ever sitting here raising a flight OK the reason is because it started showing the cracks in how narratives are framed on both sides of the political aisle not just one side isn't guilty both sides when i say both sides i'm saying the very left leaning the very right leaning side of the political wild yeah it it's it's shown that so much and those cracks have continued to show. 

And it was kind of like this almost this like a this is a shot heard around the world for twenty twenty one is we talked about the. shot heard around the world back in history and what that means to the historical implications and it this isn't like a call for revolution blah blah blah this is people finally starting to realize companies big tech companies and news organizations are in bed with the government and starting to analyze and look at things on their own a little bit more or is the government in bed with all of those guys i have a crude analogy but i'm not going to say it let me just say they're in bed with each other in a reciprocal manner yeah and the reason i i say that's one of my favorite memories not the Images or videos of people storming, storming the White House or the Congress or whatever. it's because of the fact that afterwards people started asking questions. 

Yes, it not just accepting the narrative from either side as they shouldn't do, and started wondering what are we getting into? What is the. Are we actually wagging the tail now? 

Do you know that reference from a movie? I do not know. it's literally an older movie where they literally created a fake war for the president. I know what you're talking about. Yes. Because they were trying to hide a a a scandal right yeah and they were starting a war they did the whole propaganda thing and they ended up bringing in like a little girl 's photo or something like that and yeah and and and oh that goes down a whole another rabbit hole. But that's going to be this next episode. Or wag the dog. Sorry. Not wag the dog. Wag the dog. Where is is basically that that happened and where people are starting to go. Is this a wag the dog situation this Absolutely nevermind it's just going to be. Yeah yeah. But that that's why I would I would probably I i'm going to agree with you right. And I I think the hardest part is when usually somebody asks the question and this is going to tag into this whole new episode too. it's the anticipated perception we believe we're supposed to have, right. 

So when you ask a question like that, like what's the like what's the the the best thing that has happened or the thing that's most memorable though to you, You know, my brain immediately admits, well the go to thing to say would be something that is emotional something and that is personal, right. So i'm sitting there and my brain automatically cues into that route. And so when you said wife and you said. The girlfriend, right. So my brain is just like, OK so that's out of the picture. what's the next emotional personal thing that I have to you know talk about. i'm not thinking how you're and this is going to tie into the this next episode because it's a reality we all live in. 

But I I agree with you on that and regardless of where you stand, OK you have to look at it from a non biased point of view. What we're seeing is we are seeing something that we've never seen in America within decades, at the very least for for for most people they will not be able to recall what's going on today. it's not something they can recall the the next time that you can recall. That is what was it. I think it was something it was the civil rights movement is a is a time where this kind of happened. The Reagan era is another time in which this happened. 

And then I think you go all the way back to the the twenties and that's another time that this kind of this kind of happened, this, this, this weird fracture, this narrative cracking, this propaganda flagging like people legit are looking at each other and are going. What is going on and I will say I think what's good is with that Gen. Zers. There are things I agree with with the the Gen. Zees generation and things I don't But one of the things I do like is they're the ones that are probably going to disrupt this two party system that we have. And the goal is hopefully they make it more than two and not one. I I don't know because Gen. Zers are weird politically. They they they are and they're unpredictable and that I think is the best weapon against the two party system because they base everything off of polls and showings and preliminary casts and but Gen. Zers do a lot of emotional stuff and that's the downside and they and they like to how do I put this politely they like to align with the what they feel that they are let's put that way what they identify as. 

I don't even think it's identify as I think I think it's more along Well i'm not i'm not even talking just politically what they identify as. Yeah i'm just talking socially what they identify as. Right. And I think it's just more of the initial irrational reaction. 

Right. they're told that let's save this combo before the next one. Yes, yeah, but because I got some other stuff there for that too. But OK Johnson, both me and Josh have we're loaded. we're ready. What? what's yours? what's your favorite thing over the past five years? Was it moving a washing machine with Matt? Yeah, it was pretty freaking great. 

Gosh, that's a tough one with I think Colorado in Colorado, OK Yeah. Colorado. Would you blow up in Colorado? Nothing. 

No. Just with the, the one with Lucas, his sister. And they're a friend of ours and a friend of ours. Yeah. 

OK so, so Colorado, cool. Colorado, good to see family that I haven't seen in a long time. that's right. You do. You do have family down there. And it's just good. it's good. Getaway good. OK i'm And many reasons or I guess for many reasons, but many reasons. 

OK You don't have to explain them. that's fine. You don't have to explain to us. Yeah, that's fine. 

Yeah, i've learned that lesson. we'll we'll figure out the hints as you talk. Stop. 

No, no. OK No. With that. I think that's a good place to stop. This one. Yeah. We didn't really talk about a lot of this, but we just kind of talked about how the world has changed over five years, and that's fine. So five years we brought back the Chaos Monkey, Josh. Finally, and he's going to join us for this episode plus the next two, the the Chaos Monkey is going to be around in introducing multiple things all all i'm going to say is i'm going to Nope, i'm not going to spoil one of the episodes, but I have come up with a rating scheme for the songs overall. When I put my Blogspot reviews, they're going to be, they are gonna be. 

The number of sniffs Biden makes of errand. i'm kidding, Aaron. i'm not going to do that to you. 

No, no, no, no. Good old sleepy Joe. Although that would be a fun rating system. 

it's only one Joe Sniff. Or is it three Joe Sniffs? How many sniffs does Joe want to take of this song? it's comfy shoulder right here. 

Josh. If you haven't seen the picture, I think you have. I have a picture of that photoshopped real quickly of Biden leading over Aaron and sniffing him. 

I have not seen that it's his contact photo on my phone of him a Biden or or Aaron a Biden sniffing me over. Yeah. But who's contact? Is it Biden 's contact or is it oh I don't have biden 's contact I i i would not it's a question i it's just a question i i would not want to be indicted along with biden on anything so no well it would still be cool to have his number no it wouldn't be that 'd be like a then you can ask the big man for some advice no i don't want i don't want any advice from him. Hey, big man. 

What? I do. i'm over in China. I need some help. 

Oh my God. The only person i'd want to talk to is his son Hunter. Why? So you can be on his laptop too? 

Are you looking for advice from him on something? How to do it and get away with it? that's probably the best way. Why? Why do you want to talk to Hunter? I just want money. 

Maybe I got it from him. OK go to China and share your business. Good business idea. You know, ideas. 

it's like, why do you want to be associated with a hunter at all? Why do you want to be on his laptop? I I don't OK then then stay away from him. But anyways, Five years. The role has changed. We brought back the Chaos Monkey. we're going to continue on with the Chaos Monkey. Change my mind. I just wanted to have his contact so I can ask him how he got cocaine in the White House. That is actually a very good question. I want to know that too. Like, you know what? That was the first floor. I thought as well, like that's out in the open like that. That wasn't a hit. that's not me. 

that's a good question. I can't say it was him, but. Nope. Nope, Nope. Not at all. Unless you want Secret Service coming out your door. So that's why i'm not saying it defensively. Anyway, Yeah, same regards the fact Aaron wants to be on hunter 's laptop. that's what we've learned today, that is. 

And we learned other things too. And things I wish I couldn't have learned now about him. you're welcome. 

Trust me, i've learned other things I wish I could have learned in the past. True. Yeah. 

Still can't believe you had that conversation with her. But anyways, no, he's got to get filled in. Off camera, a hundred percent off camera. No. I will show you. Everything will be off. Anyways, thank you for joining us. we'll talk later with the Chaos Monumento. Talk to you later. Bye.